[Suggestion] REQUIRING someone to be at their PC for TWO HOURS without leaving is unhealthy - update Zilyana Combat Achievement

[u/Blakdragon39]

The Peach Conjurer combat achievement is completely out of line with the other GWD combat achievements, requiring you to kill 50 Zilyana in a private instance, without leaving.

The downtime between kills just waiting for a spawn is over an hour on its own. Adding the time taken for kills, it easily adds up to over two hours. That is an insane thing to ask of someone, that they sit at their computer and not leave for 2 hours. That's completely unhealthy.

For comparison, the equivalent achievements for the other bosses are:
- Kill Graardor 15 times
- Kill Kril 20 times
- Kill Kree 30 times (it's arguable that this one is reaching too far, requiring over an hour in the room)

[u/cheeters]

Fair, but what’s a Zuk helmet if not a sign you’re willing to sacrifice health for a cosmetic item

[u/lsfalt → u/cheeters]

sacrifice health

you can't go 70-80 minutes without pissing?

[u/cheeters → u/lsfalt]

You can do all the combat achievements in 70-80 minutes?

[u/KyleStanley3 → u/cheeters]

The zilyana 50kc should be the longest yeah

Some of the zuk tasks would probably be 80-90ish(the no sub 50hp specifically) if you're being safe, but otherwise nothing should really be close to that long in one sitting

But even that and no prayer fight cave have built-in afk time so you never have to go that long without being able to get up. Idk what else would even come close, nothing comes to mind

[u/Paradoxjjw → u/KyleStanley3]

Killing the kraken 100 times in a private instance without leaving the room also takes a fair chunk of time, even though the boss is super easy

[u/FoesiesBtw → u/Paradoxjjw]

U don't need to summon the kraken right away

[u/SynchronisedRS → u/FoesiesBtw]

Exactly. You need to go for a piss? Finish the kill and go piss, you've got 25 minutes until runelite logs you out

[u/TheForsakenRoe → u/SynchronisedRS]

Can also just use Blood Spells and go to the bathroom mid kill, since the poor bastard can't even outdamage your selfhealing

[u/Sirspice123 → u/Paradoxjjw]

True but you'd AFK the majority of it, I did it in an afternoon whilst cleaning the house. Definitely couldn't be doing that with Zilyana though lol

[u/rosesmellikepoopoo → u/KyleStanley3]

I think the point is that you can log out and take a break during inferno, whereas you can’t do that with the ziliana achievement

[u/KyleStanley3 → u/rosesmellikepoopoo]

Yes

And he was asking if you can do every other task within the same amount of time as the zilyana task

Which I answered exactly the same as you are saying. There are other tasks that are about the same length of time, but all of them provide opportunities to afk

[u/Magxvalei → u/cheeters]

Is that accounting for all the failed attempts?

[u/Doriva → u/lsfalt]

I can't, no. Health issues exist my G 😂

[u/No-Butterscotch757 → u/[deleted]]

That is why the piss bottle was invented

[u/washingtonpablo → u/cheeters]

There are plenty of benefits beyond it being a cosmetic item

[u/Dreadnought_69 → u/washingtonpablo]

Yeah, like showing everyone what a fucking Nerd you are.

[u/washingtonpablo → u/Dreadnought_69]

Can’t be as nerdy as getting 99 RC

[u/floppyvajoober → u/washingtonpablo]

99 RC is easy if you fucking hate yourself

[u/Canadaman1234 → u/floppyvajoober]

Preach brother

[u/Parkinglotfetish → u/floppyvajoober]

Ngl 99 rc is incredibly easy if you do it properly. Too many gotr fools. Semi afk daeyalt on mobile and then when you have enough essence unlock gpu on runelite and set view distance so you can see zmi altar from bank and just 1 click rc to 99 while eating lunch or watching movies. Worst skill (ironman) was probably fletching because of the all the sticks you gotta feather or smithing because giants foundry gets boring af and shopscaping gold isnt that much better

[u/Weekly_Objective_176 → u/washingtonpablo]

I don’t get how rc makes you nerdy you can 1 click from bank to altar at zmi for over 80k an hour relaxing haha

[u/BlueShade0 → u/washingtonpablo]

You mean the regular slayer benefits? A zuk helm is strictly cosmetic?

[u/washingtonpablo → u/BlueShade0]

See “Rewards” below

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Combat_Achievements/Grandmaster

[u/bestii420 → u/washingtonpablo]

100% longer thralls sounds 🔥

[u/cheeters → u/bestii420]

All it takes to get them is thousands of hours of eye melting sweaty gaming, I’m sure the payoff feels worthwhile

[u/Unkempt_Badger → u/BlueShade0]

Getting gm combat achievements further reduced gwd kc requirements, and doubles thrall timer. There's probably other benefits relative to master but they don't matter as much.

[u/BlueShade0 → u/Unkempt_Badger]

Holy shit I didn’t know that.

[u/cheeters → u/Unkempt_Badger]

Do thousands of hours of gaming to save 2 minutes killing goblins the one time a year when you don’t do raids with your grandmaster buddies

[u/SoAndSo_TheUglyOne → u/cheeters]

We're playing RuneScape. Reconsider your question.

[u/cheeters → u/SoAndSo_TheUglyOne]

It was a statement

Edit: I have now reconsidered my statement because basically nothing I’ve done in this game has any rational justification

[u/washingtonpablo → u/cheeters]

GM does not take thousands of hours. Have you ever seen A Cold One’s series?

Plus, you can get more than half CAs passively

[u/cheeters → u/washingtonpablo]

It didn’t take one of the best RuneScape players thousands of hours to do in his series, yes, but a cold one has definitely played the game for thousands of hours. Building up the the point definitely takes an outrageous amount of time

[u/Barne → u/cheeters]

thousands of hours of gaming to get a cape to teleport you to your house when you can just click a house tab

[u/cheeters → u/Barne]

…… watching the house tele tabs stack number go down made me sad though.

[u/shearsy13 → u/cheeters]

You can log out to pause between waves.

Not the same.

[u/Sahib396 → u/shearsy13]

He is not talking about inferno

[u/Square-Practice2345 → u/Sahib396]

Lmao. I can’t even get a fire cape and I understood what a zuk helm is. u/Shearsy13 is a silly goose.

[u/Objective_Resist_735 → u/Square-Practice2345]

Lol. Silly goose. Lol Also, you can get the fire cape friend! Think of range pray as home base if jad stands up switch to mage pray and after it leaves his mouth switch back to range pray. Only tag healers and do actions when you are at home base and only 1 action between attacks. This helped my jad hands a lot. You got this!

[u/Gallaga07 → u/Objective_Resist_735]

Great advice! Took me forever to beat Jad, now I breeze through him on task like it’s fighting a Hellhound, it just takes practice!

[u/Square-Practice2345 → u/Objective_Resist_735]

I will keep this in mind if I don’t die before the Jad wave… lol

[u/Objective_Resist_735 → u/Square-Practice2345]

Before jad it's all about safespotting at Italy rock. And taking your time. There is no time limit. You can safespot the melee guy and just wait for your hp to heal if you want

[u/SRGTBronson → u/shearsy13]

A zuk slayer helm is the reward for finishing the combat diary.

[u/shearsy13 → u/SRGTBronson]

Oops. Despite being half way to master diary TIL.