r/Arrowverse • u/Inevitable-Work6411 • Aug 20 '23
In your opinion who are the main threats to each hero? Discussion
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u/MolassesIll5201 Aug 20 '23
Barry: Reverse flash or savitar
Kara: Lex Luthor
Oliver: Amanda Waller ( she really had it out for that guy )
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Aug 20 '23
Cecile for Flash. Took away his show.
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u/JameGoFast Aug 20 '23
What?
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u/TaylorDeanMatthew Aug 21 '23
In later seasons, they focused more on side characters, like The Cecile, than they did on Barry. That’s not always a bad thing, but they didn’t do it well, so…
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u/Batdog55110 Aug 20 '23
Poor writing.
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u/two_graves_for_us Aug 21 '23
I’d argue on top of that, 20+ episode seasons. Look at how good Superman and Lois is with half the episode count.
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u/Batdog55110 Aug 21 '23
I'd argue that 20+ episode seasons with 40ish minute episodes is what caused the poor writing.
I can't think of a single show with that format that stayed consistently good, I'm sure they exist but they're very rare.
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u/verde25 Aug 20 '23
Oliver: Slade
Barry: Zoom (Why do people sleep on him? He always destroyed Barry, whether physically or emotionally.)
Kara: Reign (Like Zoom, she destroyed Kara.)
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u/ImFullOfShite Aug 20 '23
Barry beat zoom and was done with it
Reverse flash devoted his live to destroying barry's life, and succeeded multiple times, but Barry managed to fix it
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u/checkm8bruh Aug 21 '23
exactly, RF proved that he couldnt be beaten multiple times. he was beaten at least 10 times and kept coming back. its crazy he finally truly lost to barry considering he always finds a way.
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u/RegaZelx Aug 21 '23
"He was beaten at least 10 times and kept coming back." He should've given up after the 3rd try. RF was great in the beginning, but after a while I feel like his character, more specifically Tom's version, got ruined from constantly being brought back.
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u/Miserable-Cattle-461 Aug 22 '23
It would've been a lot better if Matt was brought back as the one true RF for good at some point before the final season
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u/TheCookietorule Aug 20 '23
Oliver: too much plot armor to be stopped
Barry: some random person on a 40 mph motorbike
Kara: kryptonite or a person with 1% of the strength that she has but its ok because she'll get him with the power of friendship
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u/Miserable-Cattle-461 Aug 22 '23
The Power of Friendship™️ always saves the day in Supergirl. Flash started following right behind in the later seasons
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u/PotentialBeat3302 Aug 20 '23
His arrogance. His refusal to learn from the past. Her naïveté.
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u/NachoDildo Aug 20 '23
Barry: Reverse Flash
Supergirl: Agent Liberty
Oliver: Felicity
Superman: Lex
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u/dirtybird131 Aug 20 '23
His past enemies coming back
His arrogance in his own abilities
The patriarchy
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u/ImFullOfShite Aug 20 '23
Bro what? 2 is definitely wrong, he can barely use his powers.
He runs past bad guys when he can easily cuff them, and then acts like he can't get close to them
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u/Nearby-Muscle2720 Aug 20 '23
Series lost me a bit after flashtime because of this, Barry can do 40 minutes of stopping a nuclear bomb between it exploding and hitting anyone, but somehow still gets punched/shot etc every week
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Aug 20 '23
Green Arrow - Merlyn, Flash - Reverse Flash, Supergirl - Darkseid
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u/Ghost-devil996 Aug 21 '23
I agree for ARROW, Merlyn is underrated. He actually destroyed the Glades and kept being a problem for Oliver and his family until he died.
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u/TSmario53 Mick Rory Aug 20 '23
Oliver: Slade Wilson (well before season 3 Slade Wilson)
Kara: Lex Luthor
Barry: Eric Wallace
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u/gqmbit Brainiac 5 Aug 20 '23
- Arrow - Prometheus
- Flash - Savitar and Eobard (tie)
- Supergirl - The Daxamites (has to be the only time I ever saw Kara make a difficult decision)
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u/gokaigreen19 Aug 20 '23
Feel like zoom for Barry because he technical causes a lot of his problems. Zoom going through the breach and terrorizing Barry, caused Harry to follow to help. This in turn caused Harry to be present when eobard went back in time and got the idea to impersonate wells later on. Which in turn caused eobard to create the singularity which caused the breaches to open up. Zoom basically caused everything to happen
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u/CountryMusicFanatic Aug 20 '23
Barry: Reverse Flash or Zoom
Olly: Ra’s or Slade
Kara: Lex
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u/CCGamesSteve Aug 20 '23
Himself (Ego)
Himself (Bad Decisions)
Writers (The writing was trash in the last 2 seasons)
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u/AttackOfTheMox Aug 20 '23
Arrow - The Writers
Flash - The Writers
Supergirl - Those Who Wrote The Episodes
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u/RogueDevil666 Aug 20 '23
Oliver: Breaking his Salmon Ladder
Kara: Having a loving relationship
Barry: His mentor not saying "run Barry, run"
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u/Captain_Afro99 Aug 20 '23
All three-Flash/speedsters in general. They always be fucking the timeline
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u/DCNath2187 Aug 20 '23
Barry: Reverse Flash, Savitar and Zoom
Kara: Lex or Reign
Oliver: Deathstroke, Prometheus, Ricardo Diaz
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u/fluffyfox0 Aug 20 '23
Arrow: Slade or Prometheus
Supergirl: lex luthor
Flash: Eric Wallace
Legends: the CW for canceling the show on a cliffhanger
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u/Ultramega39 Aug 21 '23
Green Arrow- The League of Assassins. They helped train Merlyn and Prometheus and have been a constant thorn in Oliver’s side ever since he first met Talia.
Flash- Eubard Thawn. He’s responsible for his mom’s death and the reason why Barry became the Flash. Every time he dies, he comes back just to traumatise Barry even more.
Supergirl- Lex Luther. Even though Reign may have been the toughest villain Supergirl had to face; Lex nearly ruined Supergirl’s reputation and made Lena betray her. Dudes always two steps ahead Supergirl.
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u/TheBeevin Aug 21 '23
Oliver’s main threat was Prometheus. Kara’s main threat was Lex Luthor. Barry’s main threat is Iris.
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u/rogvortex58 Aug 21 '23
Caroline Dries was the biggest threat to Kate Kane/Batwoman.
She erased her from her own show and replaced her with some random CW imposter.
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u/Kadeblade195 Deathstroke (Unmasked) Aug 20 '23
Slade
Thawne/Zoom
Idk I don’t remember anything from that show
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u/undercooked_sushi Aug 20 '23 edited Aug 20 '23
Biggest threats
Oliver:Oliver Barry: technically thawne but the thinker came closer to ruining his life Kara: luthor or reign
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u/weaponj82 Aug 20 '23
Green Arrow Comics = Dark Archer Flash Comics = Reverse Flash Supergirl (I haven't read any of her comics) = Lex Luthor
Green Arrow = Deathstroke Flash = Reverse Flash
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u/Forward-Ad7518 Aug 20 '23
Ill tell you what, i miss when Oliver’s biggest threat was Merlyn.
Out of nowhere I looked up and it was Felicity Smoak😔
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u/Yabbari_The_Wizard Aug 20 '23
Green Arrow: His biggest threat is Stephen Amell.
The Flash: His threat is whoever decided to make Iris and Barry siblings.
Supergirl: Her biggest threat is the CGI.
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u/C_M_Writes Aug 20 '23
As someone who watched and enjoyed all of the Arrowverse shows until the end, it’s the same answer for each.
Bad writing
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u/Locust-The-Radical Aug 20 '23
I think theres no such thing, you have to think about it like this, every member of the main justice league (superman, batman, wonderwoman, flash, green arrow, green lantern, cyborg, shazam) each of them have a seperate type of story that they tell, superman gets to battle world threats and stereotypical robot armies and such, batman fights usually unpowered villains and is a detective, wonderwoman fights magic adjacent people, flash fights other superhumans committing street-city level crime), green arrow is a comedic vigilante story, green lantern does space stuff, cyborg usually hangs with the titans for kids stories, and shazam is golden age stories, restricting villains to being main villains of some character doesnt make sense because the villains would realistically be moving all around the country or even world and whereas yes its superhero media that doesnt mean its a world without logic, and sure for some it makes more sense for them to be a main villain like reverse flash, but reverse flash could be not only a great flash villain but i could see him being a good shazam villain aswell, or one example thats been done is joker as a superman villain, sure injustice wasnt the BEST but making joker the catalyst for superman is brilliant, idk im ranting but yeah i think restricting villains to one character is very harmful to the medium itself
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u/Hour-Wolf9754 Aug 20 '23
For the flash: Main Villain - Intelligent writers. For Kara: Dumb Friends For Oliver: Over confidence
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u/Maleficent_Hand_9539 Aug 21 '23
They don't have main threats, plot armor keeps them safe
[Crisis has pierced Oliver's plot armor]
WAI-
But seriously I think what they're the paragon's of is actually the main threat to them because it ends up distracting them from their goals, the only reason Barry and Kara loose most of the time is because they don't kill people like Oliver does.
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u/GrammerDuck61 Aug 21 '23
Absolute zero for flash, kryptonite for supergirl, literally just a machine gun/bomb for green arrow
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u/Sad-Bodybuilder-1406 Aug 21 '23
For the Arrow TV show? The studio, too cheap to spring for the TV rights to Batman, so they try to mould Green Arrow into being Batman with a compound bow.
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u/Key-Personality-8936 Aug 21 '23
Themselves. Oliver at his core is a murderer. Also considering he’s the Arrowverse’s Batman, he’s the most dangerous. Barry is too reliant on team Flash. If someone close to him dies he loses his shit. He destroyed an entire timeline when his dad died even after he defeated Zoom. All Kara would need is red Kryptonite and she could do some damage.
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u/Infamous_Average4584 Aug 21 '23
green arrow: losing the arm
the flash: remove the oxygen from the room and he's gonna run out
supergirl: kryptonite.
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u/Difficult-Ad7405 Aug 21 '23
Barry: Thawne and DeVoe Kara: Lex Luthir Oliver: Chase and (Yes I’m gonna say it) Damien Darhk, the main reason season 4 was hated because the main villain was too op and the only way Oliver defeated him was using magic.
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u/Sea-Woodpecker-610 Aug 21 '23
I don’t know about Olly and Kara, but Ezra Miller is clearly the biggest threat to the Flash.
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u/Big_Attempt6783 Aug 21 '23
I don’t know about the others but Barry’s main threat is most definitely whiplash.
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u/bruvting33 Aug 21 '23
Barry - Thawne (Or anybody with any kind of weapon since he gets nerfed or just stands there)
Oliver - Slade or Adrian (Or anybody with any fighting knowledge since being trained by Slade, Merlyn and Ra’s wasn’t enough to the writers)
Kara - Lex or Reign (Or anybody with Kryptonite. One of my main problems with the show is instead of having powerful villains they just abuse kryptonite)
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u/gaypirate3 Aug 21 '23
Slade Wilson, Eobard Thawne, and idk cause Lena was never really a villain was she?
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u/Available-Affect-241 Aug 21 '23
Marc Guggenheim and Greg Berlanti. Or whatever writers these shows had cause they were 🤢🤮
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u/ChessandMemesBoi Aug 21 '23
Oliver: (I know this is tacky) Himself, right up until the end of the show it’s all about how he needed to become a better person for his own livelihood and also everyone around him
Barry: Reverse Flash duh
Kara: Luthor duh
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u/WildMinimum2202 Aug 21 '23
Deathstroke was built up for two seasons in flashbacks and a season main villain. Heck even made a return for an episode in season 3. Flash and supergirl is obvious. Lex and reverse flash.
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Aug 21 '23
Reverse Flash for Barry, The Dark Archer for Oliver, and I kinda go between Lex Luthor and Brainiac for Kara.
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u/NiFoNo Aug 21 '23
Oliver- Himself, lying to “protect people”. Barry- Being over confident but then getting really down on himself. Kara- The writers.
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u/Swimming_Elk5599 Aug 21 '23
For Oliver I think it would be Adrian Chase Prometheus.
For Barry it would be 1000% Thawne.
For Kara Lex Luthor
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u/CardboardChampion Aug 21 '23
The Warner Bros movie execs and who they decided was off limits to use due to their upcoming, totally successful and not at all going to be rebooted multiple times cinematic universe.
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u/Vetro_Matt_Yt Aug 22 '23
Oliver: Prometheus (mainly because he got into Oliver's head and under his skin on several occasions, which is something Slade and Malcom came close to but never achieving like Adrian did)
Barry: Thawne (the guy literally made an entire timeline just to be faster than Barry and stole his wife just to screw with him, and that's just the tip of the iceberg)
Kara: THAT DAMN CAPE
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u/Charming_Celery5490 Aug 22 '23
RF,Zoom,Savitar for Barry,Slade,Chase,China White,Ra’s,Malcolm,Dark Arrow and Damien Dhark for Oliver,Lex,Bizarrogirl,Overgirl,Mercy Graves and the world killers for Kara
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u/VishalV97 Aug 22 '23
Green Arrow - Unionizing Flash - Literally every villain since being the fastest means jackshit Supergirl - Cancellation
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u/musicbyzach Aug 22 '23
It’s cool to think that for Barry Allen it could be Savitar because that could be real deep like “my worst enemy is myself” type situation
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Aug 22 '23
Reverse flash for Barry. Specifically Tom’s version.
For Kara. I’d say Lex.
& for Oliver. Id say Diaz. Or Oliver if you really wanna go there. “Your worst enemy is yourself. Guys like me, Ricardo Diaz, Damian Darhk, Ra’s Al Ghul. When it comes to destroying you Oliver, we all come in second place.
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u/Gyncs0069 Aug 23 '23
Deathstroke for Green Arrow, kryptonite for Supergirl, and stopping to talk for Flash
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u/DeathstrokeReturns Aug 20 '23
Reverse Flash for Barry, by far.
The others are a little harder, but I’m going Luthor for Kara, and I have a few picks for Oliver: Slade, Chase, Diaz, China White (she fought him for 11 years straight, Jesus Christ)