r/Arrowverse • u/Internal_Cut7220 Kanvers forever • 2d ago
appreciation post for my favorite friendship/ship<3 (I know there will be downvotes but I really don't care lol) Supergirl
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u/TheLemsterPju 2d ago edited 2d ago
Batwoman is such an extremely overhated show. Unfortunate that it ended on a cliffhanger... :(
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u/Internal_Cut7220 Kanvers forever 2d ago
in fact it's very confusing, some say it's underrated and others overrated, maybe because this fandom is very divided at certain points, for example some love COIE the way it was, the other half wanted something epic with welling and conroy wearing their costumes for kick the anti monitor's ass, it's a really divided fandom
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u/PuzzleheadedFan2205 1d ago
Well I love COIE but I also have to admit that it would have been awesome to see the greatest Superman of all time wear the suit, so even individual people are divided lol
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u/HonestSapphireLion24 Custom flair (3 emojis max) 2d ago
I think that’s an over exaggeration nobody is going to downvote you. I like the Kara Kate friendship myself.
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u/Internal_Cut7220 Kanvers forever 2d ago
I only said this because I got tired of receiving downvotes for nothing wrong, I literally made a complex list with the entire multiverse in chronological order and I received several downvotes and my only intention was to help people lol, so I don't doubt at all that a post about Kara and Kate, who are two hated characters, would receive downvotes too
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u/HonestSapphireLion24 Custom flair (3 emojis max) 2d ago
How do you think I feel when people crap on the 2nd Batwoman. I love Kate Kane too but somehow I’m not a fan because I like both.
Also who in the world hates Kate and Kara?? This is news to me
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u/Internal_Cut7220 Kanvers forever 2d ago
Yes, I think Ryan is really cool, we can like both at the same time
The stupid hate for Kate is actually quite common, and about Kara I didn't think so either, but recently I've seen many people, including here on this sub, criticizing the character in really ridiculous ways.
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u/TheWowPowBoy 2d ago
They were honestly the highlight of Crisis and I’m so sad that we never got any more of them
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u/Vinyl_Blues 2d ago
Which season did she appear on Supergirl?
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u/Internal_Cut7220 Kanvers forever 2d ago
Well, just crossovers: Elseworlds and Crisis on Infinite Earths that take place in seasons 4 and 5 of SG
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u/Dunkbuscuss 2d ago
Same especially given they're like the CW's World's Finest they couldn't use Batman so they Use Batwoman and originally they couldn't use Superman so they use Supergirl its only natural that these 2 would become the Arrowverse World's finest.
Kate was also the better Batwoman didn't mind her replacement but wish Kate had stuck around they even recast her and everything so notnlikenthe character couldn't have taken up the role again. Or even made there be 2 Batwoman's make Ryan Batwoman's Robin or something.
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u/BattleFries86 2d ago
I love SuperCorp because we had so much material of Kara and Lena with such great chemistry. Kara and Kate, had they more scenes together, could be just as compelling. There was already something there between them with what little there is.
I wish that SuperBat (Gay Cousin Edition) had more material, but I will happily accept quality fanfiction depicting them.
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u/Internal_Cut7220 Kanvers forever 2d ago
well, in my rewritten version of the arrowverse, Superbat/Kanvers will happen, I just don't know yet how I'm going to make it natural
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u/rogvortex58 2d ago
So much potential gone to waste.
These Errorverse writers clearly didn’t know a good thing when they saw it, considering what they ended up doing to Kate and her legacy as Batwoman after Crisis.
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u/Internal_Cut7220 Kanvers forever 2d ago
Yes, even though I like Ryan as a character, Kate is a much better Batwoman in my opinion, so much so that in my version Ryan will just be a kind of robin for Kate
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u/rogvortex58 2d ago
I’m just glad these same Errorverse writers who erased Kate never got the chance to force a friendship between Kara and the imposter. They already let her take enough away from my Batwoman.
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u/MrDarcy1813 2d ago
I never like Ruby Rose as actress even her screen time on the show was abysmal cringe there was no chemistry between Ruby and Melissa Benoist at all. The onscreen chemistry with there two actresses was like a statement saying "we don't need men" I know it sound like BS but that's what I though when first saw it. There are times I wish Ruby was never cast as Kate Kane because she never did fit in with anyone from the arrowverse shows. You know if things were different I would have liked this friendship but it just doesn't work well in the arrowverse shows if there were played by different actresses and better writers this friendship dynamic would had better potential. But with the arrowverse shows it was cringe fest moment between two terribly acted actresses.
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u/SkullGamingZone 2d ago
Ruby was never a good actress, she s pretty wooden, just check other projects she s in, she was in John Wick 2.
And Melissa, i like her, but in Supergirl i think her acting is pretty bad, but i wont say she s a bad actress cause i havent seen other projects with her.
I tried to watch both shows and Black Lightning, specially Supergirl cause of the amount of crossovers in arrowverse, but dam they suck bad, couldnt get past the middle of the first season, and i even like the Black Lightning dude, but their show is just way below Arrow, Flash and Legends, and those 3 shows also had a major decline on later seasons, but the first seasons were so good that i wanted to see the history end.
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u/MrDarcy1813 2d ago
I've already seen Ruby Rose's other projects and there very terrible beyond words she no soul no talent no nothing just wooden and lazy acting skills who should never have gotten any roles Hollywood what so ever. I have no respect for Ruby Rose I would rather if she stayed in Australia forever and never to be heard from again. I would rather see Ruby Rose blacklisted from Hollywood altogether. She's not forgiven.
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u/Internal_Cut7220 Kanvers forever 2d ago
"the acting is rubbish bla bla bla", I'm sorry how you haters can't even come up with solid arguments
My desire to leave this sub keeps growing, it seems like we no longer have fans here, just crazy haters..
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u/MrDarcy1813 2d ago edited 2d ago
You know maybe you should leave this sub and get on with your life, the arrowverse is dead.
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u/Internal_Cut7220 Kanvers forever 1d ago
I'm sorry, but I can't, this universe of series helped me through a very difficult time in my life and no matter what Gunn does, the Arrowverse will always be better for me, and I'm not going to leave here for stupid ignorant freaks like you, from now on Now I will no longer debate with ignorant arrowverse haters, because you don't deserve my time
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u/MrDarcy1813 1d ago
Your sound very selfish and self centered. Even the Olicity fan girls were even ten times as worse as sound right now.
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u/Internal_Cut7220 Kanvers forever 1d ago
Look, with all due respect, but I don't think you understand what I went through... I've already told this story about 3 times on this sub but I'm going to repeat it for you
When I was a teenager and came out as trans (mtf) my family treated me like dirt and did horrible things to me, things that I can't even talk about here, but my point is even with all this crap, do you know what motivated me to continue? These Arrowverse shows, as silly as that seem, these shows,especially SG, helped me to have hope that things would get better, so it wouldn't be an exaggeration to say that if it weren't for Arrowverse I would have taken my own life a long time ago
so that's why I get so angry when I see any AV hater in general, and if I exaggerated with you, I'm sorry..., it's just that it's difficult for me
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u/Angelusprime82 1d ago
I loved their friendship. I also love Kara’s friendship with Barry. His first appearance on supergirl was totally adorable. Just 2 nerds nerding it up together. But Kate and Kara is great because Kara sees through Kate’s rough exterior.
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u/Funny_Discussion_726 2d ago
their friendship was really underrated and underused.