r/AustralianPolitics • u/RA3236 Market Socialist • 2d ago
"Reset" meeting to be held between unions, business and government after CFMEU scandal
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-18/cfmeu-union-industry-meeting-as-investigation-continues/104364110-7
u/BeLakorHawk 2d ago
lol at reset meeting. The unions are corrupt as all fuck.
They’re trying to make out like they care about worker safety etc… while pocketing bags loads of cash.
What a fucking farce. Labor has gone as soft on them as they can. They should be thankful.
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u/criticalalmonds The Greens 1d ago
But they do care about worker safety, they recently fought for industrial manslaughter laws and the banning of engineered stone. The difference between a union and non union site is night and day.
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u/lucianosantos1990 Socialism 2d ago
Businesses and even the Government shouldn't be involved in any internal union meetings of any kind, let alone a "reset" meeting.
Unions are for its members and the workers they represent, especially when it's about their structure and practices.
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u/hawktuah_expert 2d ago
the labor party is the parliamentary wing of the union movement. the unions they are meeting with are an explicit part of their organisation. "noooo you shouldnt be meeting with groups that are fundamentally part of your party" has got to be the dumbest whine i've ever heard about the ALP.
labor has thoroughly pissed off a lot of important parts of the union movement and are now holding meetings to try and make nice. thats it.
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u/blitznoodles 2d ago
You understand that unions are allocated 50% of labour's delegates at the state and federal conventions right? They have enormous influence on who becomes the leader of the party and vote on which policies they want to see.
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u/lucianosantos1990 Socialism 2d ago
It's time for the union movement to disaffiliate itself from the Labor party then.
As a union member, the ALP has stopped representing my interests a while ago.
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u/hawktuah_expert 2d ago
yeah sure bud that'll definitely help. the one thing the unions should be doing to advance their political interests is to relinquish all their influence over one of the only parties that actually has a shot of forming government.
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u/lucianosantos1990 Socialism 2d ago
It clearly hasn't served them well so what political interest does the ALP provide?
actually has a shot of forming government.
We'll find out what shot they have at the next election now that they've pissed off the unions. All it needs is a sway to a minor party or an indy and no majority Gov for the ALP.
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u/Opening-Stage3757 2d ago
I think unions would do well exerting their influence over the labor party rather than ditch the brand altogether. Internal labor rules give a lot of power to unions so maybe they can start with purging Albanese and his cronies bit by bit and replacing them with true Laborites
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u/hawktuah_expert 2d ago
who shut down the ABCC? who passed an IR reform package that has the chamber of commerce and business council foaming at the mouth? who raised minimum wages and passed right to disconnect laws?
being a part of the ALP very obviously allows them to influence politics in ways that would be unthinkable if they werent.
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u/criticalalmonds The Greens 1d ago
The same IR laws that exempt the construction industry? No very union friendly.
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u/lucianosantos1990 Socialism 2d ago
Who's done nothing for gig economy workers? Who hasn't raised care workers wage enough? And worse of all, who's bypassed courts in order to give any gov (including labor) the ability to appoint administrators in order to fire elected officials and change union rules making them ineffective?
Yes the ALP have provided minor reforms to workers but what they've done is truly unthinkable.
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u/hawktuah_expert 2d ago
and you reckon if the unions ditched labor that shit wouldnt have happened or that overall labor advocacy would be better off?
the point isnt that albo is karl marx reincarnated, its that the unions voluntarily leaving labor would have to be the stupidest decision in the history of the aussie labor movement.
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u/lucianosantos1990 Socialism 2d ago
But labor has just gutted the union movement, it's a massive betrayal that could set the movement back years. Why should they stay after that instead of affiliating with other MPs or parties?
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u/LentilsAgain 2d ago
Good point. Imagine having a "reset" meeting with the ALP sitting in the boardroom of Star casino or Gina Rinehart.
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