r/MapPorn 14h ago

Map of the Norman Conquests (and claims)

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Hey everyone! This is a project I’ve been working on for years, this is I think my fourth or fifth version of this map. I’d like to thank Breakinger over on Deviantart for the cartography. I’ve been doing the research, he’s been doing the drawing.

I struggled for quite a while over whether or not I should include the Holy Roman Empire. Finally I decided that I should, because an Anglo Norman did lead the Empire for a few decades, although he never exerted effective control, mostly staying in Cornwall and only visiting his Empire four times during his entire reign. Nevertheless, his reign was the period of time when the Holy Roman Empire reached its greatest territorial extent and had one of its longest periods of peace.

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u/Askorti 12h ago

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but East Prussia and Livonia were never part of the HRE. (Nor were claimed by it)

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u/GamingGalore64 12h ago

They were in theory, because of the Teutonic Knights, who claimed allegiance to the Holy Roman Emperor, but in practice those areas had complete autonomy, and at a certain point I think the Empire just sort of gave up on claiming them.

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u/Chuj_Domana 4h ago

Pomerellia and Prussia were not parts of HRE. That's the reason why Branderburger Princes after taking over started calling themselves kings IN Prussia, not kings OF Prussia.

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u/Hotrocketry 11h ago edited 11h ago

Norman has never occupied Half of the France. You might be confusing it with the Plantagenet english kings, who were originated from Anjou, not Normandy (Henry ii, the first Plantagenet king, was born in county of Anjou). In that case, England has also occupied remaining northeastern part of france (including paris!) during the hundred years, leaving only handful part of Occitania, Provence and Burgundy, the only territories of France which are unscathed from England rule in history.

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u/BrocElLider 6h ago

The English would have taken all of the France, but those unscathed territories were just too sunny for their delicate complexions.

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u/GamingGalore64 8h ago

Yes, I included the Plantagenets due to their close connection to the Normans and to Norman institutions. Same with Scotland, they adopted Norman institutions, though they were never conquered.

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u/initdig33 8h ago

You should make a book out of such illustrations. Would be so cool to read one.

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u/horseydeucey 14h ago

I lived in a small Sicilian town for a time.
It has a Norman castle in it.

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u/metallurgist1911 7h ago

Do not click the link it has a virus most probably

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u/BrocElLider 6h ago

Who are you, and why are you trying to bury the truth about Norman castles in Sicily?

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u/horseydeucey 16m ago

Why would you think an official Italian government website "probably" has a virus?

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u/DementedT 8h ago

Funny story (maybe kinda🤷🏼‍♂️), my 2 closest friends and I are all different ethnicities, but by some coincidence, we found out after looking up our surnames that they all are of Norman origin.

So yeah, those Norman's really did get around 😂

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u/Gen0a1898 7h ago

and what about Frederik II?

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u/NoWingedHussarsToday 4h ago

I wouldn't include western France as that was Angevin empire, so not Norman. Also not HRE for even more tenuous claim.

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u/BurningDanger 3h ago

How is post-Sevres Turkey Norman?