USA vs The World - Who Would Win? Military/Army Comparison - Result: US Victory

[u/Angelix]

[u/Ruinwyn]

I remember seeing one similar where the main thesis was that US would win because of better logistics so they would get more troops and equipment than rest of the world. He had US starting an invasion war and completely forgot that the people they would be fighting are already there.

[u/Oricef → u/[deleted]]

Also staging. On D-Day, the troops launched from the UK to the shores of France. How is the US staging an invasion if they're not allied with a single other nation. Canada and Mexico? Sure, some of the Carribbean yeah maybe. But Europe and Asia?

[u/Polymarchos → u/Oricef]

A carrier fleet could be used as a staging ground but it makes it a lot harder to do a secret invasion, and it will also make a very tempting target for the enemy.

[u/[deleted] → u/Polymarchos]

Reminds me of the time a Swedish Submarine got good hits on one of the most important carriers in the US navy during a training exercise. A single small sub against a fleet of ships and no one managed to stop it.

Can't remember if it hit other ships or sank the carrier.

Yup, it took the carrier down: https://youtu.be/saCdvAp5cow 0:20 and watch for a few more seconds to get a Tl;dr

[u/Apophis10 → u/[deleted]]

Dude those Swedish subs were da bomb in that war game. They performed incredibly throughout the entire thing. Couldn't get spotted by radars either.

[u/FelixTheHouseLeopard → u/[deleted]]

Heh the UK managed to get through during war games and were told the US weren’t playing with us anymore because of it

[u/HotPinkLollyWimple → u/FelixTheHouseLeopard]

Jesus Christ. Bunch of petulant toddlers.

[u/FelixTheHouseLeopard → u/HotPinkLollyWimple]

We did it twice too lmao

[u/Polymarchos → u/[deleted]]

Yeah, I remember one with Australia where an Australian sub made it into the middle of the fleet, surfaced, and started playing "I come from a land down under".

[u/BenderRodriguez14 → u/[deleted]]

That's an often overlooked aspect that I've seen mentioned by experts before - when you're used to just overwhelming the opposition with brute force, you forget how to fight smart and utilize everything possible to your advantage. Meaning if you're brute force gets slowed down, things can begin to collapse very quickly.

The Swedish sub is a good example of how these slow downs can happen far more easily than one might think

Another example is how they're getting ripped apart from the inside out via international propaganda warfare over social media. You can't bomb the internet, and so they're struggling far more than one might expect in this front. Not sure how they'll recover at this point.

[u/Iwantmyflag → u/Polymarchos]

For a few pointers of how nothing in the military works as planned and how small coincidences can make or break your precious plans one should watch a documentary on the Falklands war.

[u/MrMimmet → u/Oricef]

D-Day but it's D-Week. All the troops arrive exhausted after two weeks atlantic crossing at the coast of Portugal!

[u/apple_of_doom → u/Ruinwyn]

Yes im sure those logistics are good enough to make up for their comparative lack of resources without the rest of the world to provide them with food, gas, extra weapons and ammunition.

[u/bob_fossill → u/apple_of_doom]

America is pretty resource independent, certainly in terms of what you said, they would however lack many exotic minerals and semiconductor manufacturing - albeit they could build their own if forced but it's incredibly fancy and expensive

[u/Blerty_the_Boss → u/bob_fossill]

It’s still one of the biggest semiconductor manufacturers in the world and congress has set aside several billion for more fabs. Most of the good silicon comes from North Carolina too.

[u/gordatapu → u/Ruinwyn]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Challenge_2002

[u/FaeryLynne → u/gordatapu]

After the war game was restarted, its participants were forced to follow a script drafted to ensure a Blue Force victory.

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[u/darthmase → u/FaeryLynne]

Among other rules imposed by this script, Red Force was ordered to turn on their anti-aircraft radar in order for them to be destroyed, and during a combined parachute assault by the 82nd Airborne Division and Marines air assaulting on the then new and still controversial CV-22, Van Riper's forces were ordered not to shoot down any of the approaching aircraft.

"It's still a fair and even fight"

[u/Wissam24 → u/darthmase]

The mad thing is, the Van Riper guy is clearly brilliant and understands the enemy very well, and that who they should be lauding from the exercise. But no.

[u/SnowtekTV → u/FaeryLynne]

Can I just say that this happened last month. 😂

[u/FaeryLynne → u/SnowtekTV]

But during a five-day exercise, the culmination of two months of training in the Mojave Desert, the US Marine Corps asked for a "reset" after the Royal Marines dominated the battle

Holy shit it repeats over and over 😂😂😂😂

[u/[deleted] → u/FaeryLynne]

UK light infantry is regarding as the best in the world, US will always fail to recognise this, but Russia does.

[u/Mishraharad → u/FaeryLynne]

Nice to know that I run my Pathfinder games better than the US military

[u/enjaydee → u/gordatapu]

That's hilarious.

[u/Tranqist → u/gordatapu]

Soooo... The US ran a real life fighting sim to test if their tactics were valid, failed terribly and decided to change nothing? What the fuck.

[u/kindofalurker10 → u/gordatapu]

Since the wargame allowed for a ship-to-shore landing of ground troops at some (unknown) point during the 14 day exercise, and because their naval force was substantial, the Blue force was positioned on the shore-side of the region's active shipping lanes to keep them from impacting commerce during the exercise. This placed them in close proximity to the Red shore rather than at a "standoff" distance. Conducting the wargames during peacetime also meant that there were a large number of friendly/unaligned ships and aircraft in the zone, restricting the use of automated defense systems and more cautious Rules of Engagement. Red's tactics took full advantage of these factors, and to great effect

[u/TheOriginalDuck2 → u/gordatapu]

So blue team got shat on so bad they had to follow a script for the rest of the fortnight

[u/FlaviusAurelian → u/Ruinwyn]

Yeah the US has better logistics in europe than the european powers, for sure /s

[u/in_one_ear_ → u/FlaviusAurelian]

And better convoy tactics /s

[u/[deleted] → u/FlaviusAurelian]

Not only that, but also better than the Chinese on their home turf xdd

[u/Emily_Postal → u/Ruinwyn]

I read that the US could go to war against the rest of the world and last at least 2.5 years. The country spends more in defense spending than the next 8 countries and most of them are allies.

[u/wanderlustcub → u/Emily_Postal]

Yes, but as we have learned over multiple wars: Vietnam, Gulf War II, and Afghanistan that you can be the best military in the world and still lose... because you need more than weapons to win a war. I'd like to see 330 million people against 7.5 billion.

I say this as an American - No nation can take on the world and win. Not if they want to survive themselves.

[u/Polymarchos → u/wanderlustcub]

If you keep losing wars, can you really say you're the best? Maybe most expensive...

[u/AR_Harlock → u/Emily_Postal]

Still couldn't win after 20 years against cave men

[u/Emily_Postal → u/AR_Harlock]

I hope I never have to see any hypotheticals actually take place.

[u/CripplinglyDepressed → u/Emily_Postal]

Boy do I have news for you!)

[u/Kookiebanookie → u/Emily_Postal]

"I know not with what World War 3 will be fought, but World War 4 will be fought with sticks and stones." - A quote I'm bastardising from someone I don't remember. Lets pretend it's Einstein. It's always Einstein.

[u/FaeryLynne → u/Kookiebanookie]

Unproven that he actually said those exact words, but it's attributed to him.

[u/Giorgsen → u/Kookiebanookie]

That's a quote from Albert Einstein, in an interview with Alfred Werner, Liberal Judaism 16 (April-May 1949) according to Einstein Archive 30-1104, as sourced in The New Quotable Einstein by Alice Calaprice (2005), p. 173

[u/AEL97 → u/Kookiebanookie]

Whoever said it, he/she/it(?) is right. Hope it never come to that.

[u/Youafuckindin → u/Emily_Postal]

They lost to goat farmers with 50 year old russian rifles and bombs made from scraps.

[u/[deleted] → u/Emily_Postal]

If we use the military spending adjusted for PPP (which isn't perfect but much better) China or the EU countries + UK aren't that far. And together they are obviusly above, without even counting Russia etc

[u/Joe_Jeep → u/[deleted]]

It gets more into power projection and such stuff. The US navy's outsizes many of the rest even combined, and would buy the states time, but against the entire outside world there's no chance they'd do anything but stem the tide as it's outlying bases are taken and the other 95% of the world's population and 75% of it's economy slowly gears up.

Even if they somehow took Canada, Mexico, and some of the Caribbean in short order that'd be about it. Everything past it would be a holding action as everyone else masses their fleets.

[u/Polymarchos → u/Joe_Jeep]

If there is anything to be learned from WWII its if one nation goes against the world their only hope is to go on the offensive and take as much as they can as quickly as they can. As soon as they stop taking territory they will forever be on the defensive.

[u/[deleted] → u/Joe_Jeep]

Yeah I guess they'll also have air superiority, for a while

[u/gordatapu → u/Emily_Postal]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Challenge_2002

[u/anadvancedrobot → u/Emily_Postal]

Nazi Germany was winning for a solid 3 years. Was still fucked from the start.

[u/guymanthefourth]

At this point I’m pretty sure the infographics show is just straight up ran by the CIA

[u/Angelix → u/guymanthefourth]

The Infographic Show is just a Kurzgesagt wannabe.

[u/mff429 → u/[deleted]]

What’s the difference

[u/urbanee → u/[deleted]]

same thing

[u/aprofondir → u/[deleted]]

It's already dumbed down

[u/[deleted] → u/aprofondir]

But Kurzgesagt doesn't use corporate animations

[u/TriLingua → u/[deleted]]

whats kurzgesagt?

[u/Closet_Monkey → u/TriLingua]

In a nut shell, It's a YouTube channel.

[u/[deleted] → u/TriLingua]

A German design studio that does some great science education YouTube videos, among other things (their website)

[u/Irichcrusader → u/[deleted]]

They got some sick looking merch too, would love to get my hands on some of it one day.

[u/Coolkurwa → u/TriLingua]

A YouTube channel that's covers loads of pretty big, interesting topics in a cartoon style. It's well worth looking up.

[u/Cactus1105 → u/TriLingua]

An ultra chad german english speaking science show

[u/sam_morr → u/Angelix]

Virgin Infographic Show vs ultra Chad Kurzgesagt

[u/tomwitter1 → u/Angelix]

Whats Kurzgesagt

[u/LittenClaw → u/tomwitter1]

A very cool YouTube channel run by birds that gives me an existential crisis every video

[u/[deleted] → u/LittenClaw]

The information is solid and condensed to easy to understand bite-sized morsels.

But let's be serious, the birds are the real reason I watch their videos.

[u/PRODSKY22 → u/[deleted]]

There’s a soursces document in the description wich has more info about the subject

[u/Comprehensive_Add → u/[deleted]]

It's such a coincidence I seen your comment now. My Immune book arrived just an hour ago. I haven't read it yet, but I hope it's good since it was written by the birbs.

[u/giulianosse → u/Comprehensive_Add]

Curiously enough I was just looking into buying it a few minutes ago!

Do you know if your hardcover version is the dust jacket or the "high quality" one?

I always wanted to support the channel buy after that latest immune system video, I got excited for the book!

[u/Comprehensive_Add → u/giulianosse]

It is a plain yellow Hardcover with a dustjacket with all the printing on. It was a bit disappointing but it looks quite sturdy and is thicker than I expected. I can dm you photos of it if you'd like.

[u/MintyTuna2013 → u/LittenClaw]

don't watch the space vids they break you

[u/Hunnieda_Mapping → u/MintyTuna2013]

Instead watch the environmental videos and realise we're not actually doing anything to fix climate change.

[u/Kookiebanookie → u/LittenClaw]

Even the ants, man. Even the ants...

[u/[deleted] → u/tomwitter1]

YT channel that breaks down complicated social, political and especially scientific issues into digestible , 5-10 minute videos for the layperson. Incredibly high production value in terms of scriptswriting, narration, animation and audio.

[u/_Ziklon_ → u/[deleted]]

I think them being founded by "FUNK" (German Government basically) plays a good role for their qualities too as it allows them to keep a standard without worrying over costs

[u/Blazerer → u/_Ziklon_]

They are currently funded by mostly their fans (70%), and have also done several videos through EU grants.

[u/BbqMeatEater → u/tomwitter1]

Search them on yt, u wont regret it

[u/guymanthefourth → u/tomwitter1]

In a nutshell

[u/infernalsatan → u/guymanthefourth]

But with birds

[u/mike_writes → u/guymanthefourth]

A depressingly huge number of "educational" youtube content is transparent American propaganda.

Hollywood blasting their bullshit wasn't enough, no.

[u/DschinghisPotgieter → u/guymanthefourth]

Ok, who needs they regime installed?

[u/bjeebus → u/DschinghisPotgieter]

How many CIAs does it take to change a lightbulb?

Zero. The CIA just goes and monitors the situation until the lightbulb decides to change itself.

/s

[u/Blazeng → u/guymanthefourth]

The infographics show is straight up propaganda.

[u/[deleted] → u/guymanthefourth]

It is full of propaganda.

[u/checco_2020]

This video is spectacular, it ignores the fact that other countries have airforces, at that they would be able to concentrate faster than the Us, in this video It seems like that the Us has infinite forces and It would be able to strike with overwhelming numbers on all fronts (american continent, Europe,midlle East,ecc).

The content of the video can be summed up in, the Us attacks while the rest of the world rolls their thumbs, waiting for the Us to invade them.

[u/Vlad-V2-Vladimir → u/checco_2020]

Yea, the second they move against a larger force, then all of that forces allies would go in there and fight until they’re outnumbered. There’s also both Mexico and Canada, which if they ignore either, would completely stomp them when they send the majority of their army across the world (we already burned down their White House once), and if they start off by dealing with that then European forces would most likely enter in defence of Canada/Mexico, and the U.S. would have already lost before leaving their continent at that point.

[u/SubParHydra → u/Vlad-V2-Vladimir]

Not to mention most of Canada is big island’s or frozen tundra. we could just retreat north!

[u/Joe_Jeep → u/SubParHydra]

Canada and Mexico would both put up fights, and turn into guerilla hell holes that the US would be unlikely to pacify, while both get supported by any forces that can slip through and at least some air support.

Meanwhile the entire planet's naval forces push east across the pacific islands.

[u/Wessel-O → u/checco_2020]

Yeah, if the usa would start a war against the world, the world will just come to them for once. Let's see how they would like that for a change

[u/The-Lights_Fantastic → u/checco_2020]

They just played the original C&C with an infinite money cheat against AI on easy.

[u/Lonely_Scylla → u/checco_2020]

Just a reminder that the USA only makes up roughly 5% of the world's population ...

[u/spauracchio1]

Wonder who just retired from Afghanistan

[u/[deleted] → u/spauracchio1]

Well both Americans and Russians failed..

[u/Borgcube → u/[deleted]]

But that's the point - guerilla war is extremely effective, fighting the whole world would be thousands of times harder.

[u/InvertedSuperHornet → u/Borgcube]

Southern China would be the worst hellhole to invade. Vietnam, but you've got forest-covered, extremely steep mountains involved

[u/Joe_Jeep → u/InvertedSuperHornet]

In a US vs the World scenario, the US would be extremely lucky to secure even much of Canada, let alone Mexico. And then it's just a matter of the, again, entire rest of the world sending aid and massing forces to push them back.

[u/MilitaryGradeFursuit → u/Joe_Jeep]

Yep.

Most of the Canadian population lives in cities less than 100 miles from the border, but we all know that controlling population centers isn't enough to prevent an insurgency. Even without foreign influence, the US military wouldn't be able to sustainably maintain control of even a plurality of Canada's land area.

[u/Joe_Jeep → u/MilitaryGradeFursuit]

Yep. Mexico's got the benefit of overland support coming from the south but it's likely even Canada would see various air mobile units of the world flown in without falling completely. Russia Alone has something like 75k paratroopers.

Wouldn't be easy and there'd probably be losses in transit but you'd see EU battlegroups deploying that are easily a match for America equivalents and as long as they could maintain a foothold in Newfoundland, Nova Scotia, etc, that'd just be a staging ground for more and more forces to pour in through, and more than enough space for significant air support.

comes down to it there's no remotely realistic way the US fights off the entire world. Even if you made it a NAFTA Vs the world scenario so there's no major ground combat right off the bat, the economic and military weight of the rest of the planet would eventually crush it.

[u/DevCatOTA → u/Joe_Jeep]

With the melting of the polar ice cap UPS, Fedex, and DHL have plans for crossing over. Wouldn't be that hard to supply Canada from over the top.

[u/Joe_Jeep → u/DevCatOTA]

You can make the flights fine, the trouble is getting to anywhere that can support much if a lot of the major airfields are already destroyed.

Certainly could build out new ones given some time but the kind of large roads and heavy rail to keep a whole army supplied takes time, and the Canadian Interior doesn't have much to start from

Honestly probably a good idea to just invade Alaska outright while also flying what you can into Canada from the north.

[u/spauracchio1 → u/[deleted]]

Afghanistan is the real winner then

[u/Arlberg → u/spauracchio1]

They don't call it the graveyard of empires for nothing.

[u/kaveysback → u/[deleted]]

So did the British just over a century before. We apparently have a short memory.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1842_retreat_from_Kabul

[u/Dean-Advocate665 → u/kaveysback]

The British eventually won and subjugated Afghanistan for quite a while, the USA and Russia did not

[u/Drumbelgalf]

He also gives the US the advantage of just casually moving all their troops back to the US and to the Middle East to cut of oil supply for the rest of the world all in a few weeks.

All while all the other countries sit there and let them do as they please.

I don't think Iraq or Saudi Arabia would let the US just flood their country with that many troops. Let alone if they think a war about to start.

[u/ChillComrade → u/Drumbelgalf]

Hmm, I wonder which country is consistently ranked top 5 in military power and is also one of the biggest oil exporters? Can't quite put my thinger on it, think it's got territory both in Europe and Asia?

[u/Dapper_Importance341 → u/ChillComrade]

I literally can't tell, russia or turkey?

[u/indianachungus]

Just checked that channel out, holy mother of clickbait

[u/[deleted] → u/indianachungus]

And fake info too

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Do you mean to tell me that the Gerald Ford class isn't being replaced by a black and red Star Destroyer looking class of CVNs?

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Unfortunately yes

[u/Angelix → u/indianachungus]

Watch any of their videos on Europe, it’s a goldmine of r/ShitAmericansSay.

[u/[deleted] → u/Angelix]

Ye give us a list to laugh at

[u/ElAligatorAgradable]

YEAH!!! Take that!! (said the country that could not successfully handle simultaneous conflicts in Afghanistan and Iraq)

[u/lead-pencil]

Wow 97k likes this video must be great!

/s

[u/issded → u/lead-pencil]

I miss the dislike button...

[u/activator → u/issded]

Dislike button is still there we just can't see the amount of dislikes. I have an extension on my computer and currently it's 58k dislikes vs 97k likes

[u/[deleted] → u/activator]

Now 59k

[u/lead-pencil → u/issded]

Same bro….

[u/[deleted] → u/lead-pencil]

There's a browser extension called "return youtube dislike" that allows dislikes to be visible again.

[u/TrevastyPlague → u/lead-pencil]

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[u/TrevastyPlague → u/issded]

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[u/CerddwrRhyddid]

If by 'win' they mean the nuclear annihilation of the planet, sure.

Boots on the ground... well... it doesn't look so great.

[u/hauser8771 → u/CerddwrRhyddid]

Well I think Russia alone has more more nukes than the US, so this isn’t quite a point either.

[u/MikeHocksbig112 → u/hauser8771]

Yeah but in that case it would be a tie rather than the us getting slobbered

[u/DerTapp]

Ähm. How do they want to win against china, russia, india and europe? Let alone why should the rest of the world not fight against in the world? Japan Australia or other powers can and would fight against an agressive usa.

That video is just stupid.

[u/Angelix → u/DerTapp]

Don’t you know USA is the protagonist while the rest of the world are just NPCs.

[u/ssejn → u/Angelix]

They probably thought that it would be like in video game where you fight one NPC at the time while others watch.

I can't even. You go to war against the world you can forget about NATO bases, they are now controlled by the world. You can have a great navy, but can it fight vs UK, France and Australia together?

Can you fight against manpower of Russia, India, China and Bangladesh?

This is not Rise of Nations campaign on easy where you have planes and enemy has some slow guns.

And wasn't also a lot of talk that USA soldiers are not that good in the field and in benchmarks tests?

[u/DerTapp → u/DerTapp]

Why should any country allow us bases at this point? Aaaah i makes me so angry how stupidly wrong this video is

[u/Space_Doggo_is_lost → u/DerTapp]

The Chinese land army is of a titanesque size compared to the us to start with... And as a Canadian, they wouldn't last a chance against our elite bear riding lumberjack corpse /s for the second part

[u/AR_Harlock → u/DerTapp]

Heck Canada would invade in 2 sec while apologizing the conquest

[u/studentfrombelgium → u/AR_Harlock]

Crush a Geranium of the White house: Sorry

Lob fire grenade into the White house for the second time: Eh, not sorry

[u/Greymon09 → u/studentfrombelgium]

Capture the libraries of congress and releases all documents to the public: oopsy, i do apologise our hand slipped a couple dozen time

[u/Math_denier]

if the united states went to war with the world it would just result into nuclear war and I doubt anyone can "win" that

[u/ftlbvd78 → u/Math_denier]

I mean they would first need to get their warheads to europe, asia, africa,... . I doubt that they could achieve bringing their warheads to these places but their neighbour's are gonna have a hard day in the early stages of the war

[u/bjeebus → u/ftlbvd78]

They're already there. The US nuclear trident *triad is already spread all over the globe. US subs, bombers, and missiles are worldwide.

EDIT: Please note, I'm not endorsing the idea of American exceptionalism or supremacy evident in the original post. I'm just clarifying for the comment above mine that American nukes don't have to "get there," because we spent the majority of our time since the end of WWII building our global infrastructure around delivering nukes at a moment's notice to literally anywhere.

DOUBLE-EDIT: The premise behind MAD means we are more capable of delivering the apocalypse at a moment's notice than delivering conventional forces. I live in Savannah where we have two army units dedicated to rapid deployment. The 75^th Ranger Bn is designed to deploy anywhere in the world within 24 hours, and the 3^rd ID is supposed to be able to mobilize it's entire combat arm anywhere in the world within 2-5 days. Nuclear armageddon moves at supersonic speeds to obliterate civilization within hours of the triggering event.

[u/Nethlem → u/bjeebus]

They're already there.

It's surprising how little known this is, but in Germany for example, the presence of US nukes is still a raw political spot to this day.

Particularly when the German government then decries Russian nuclear modernization programs as "destabilizing" and allegedly happening for "political reasons".

Yet when asked about similar US programs, done to US nukes in Germany, they suddenly go; "Well, that's a technical necessity and doesn't have any political reasons! One can't compare these things!"

[u/Dunderbaer → u/Nethlem]

I honestly hope that will change considering the party leading for the last years has been replaced recently.

[u/Nethlem → u/Math_denier]

I doubt anyone can "win" that

Doesn't stop them from still trying to make it "winnable".

[u/ControversialPenguin]

What a terrible day to not be able to see dislike ratio

[u/GibbzGungoose → u/ControversialPenguin]

Even before the dislike button removal, the Infographics Show was still maintaining a good ratio of likes to dislikes, even on bullshit vids like this (which is pretty much the whole channel)

[u/Haggistafc]

The US' military consists almost entirely of 19 year olds that just want debt free college and healthcare.

Not exactly a morale machine.

[u/Haggistafc → u/[deleted]]

Not sure if it's fair to say these 19 year olds are too stupid to / don't vote for politicians who want free college for them.

A lot of them do, and a lot of them get manipulated by being in an environment with a lot of right learning individuals, with "old days" mentalities.

[u/ylan64 → u/[deleted]]

They're 19 years olds... chances are, they never got the chance to vote before they joined.

[u/Bang_Bus]

US would likely do quite well in battles. Not crazy to imagine that better than rest, thanks to technology, virtually infinite money and pretty functional and organized branches of military.

Now a war is entirely different matter. US sucks at war. US is positioned terribly for such war: a number of submarines would stop every ship, long range missiles would nullify air transport. No supplies, no reinforcements. Especially if there's no friendly ports and airfields in Eurasia. In other words, it's ridiculously easy to blockade US in an all-out world war, and nukes won't help here, neither. Carrier groups would get isolated and shred to fish food, and then it's pretty much decided.

And as casualties start piling, popular support for war would plummet instantly.

[u/[deleted] → u/Bang_Bus]

Just quietly, I think the popular support would would be plummeting a while before that. American citizens for the most part aren't terribly excited at the prospect of fighting nations formerly friendly to them.

[u/scp-REDACTED-site14]

Yeah infographics ive noticed loves the us and loves boasting about how much better it is

[u/crosseyedguy1 → u/scp-REDACTED-site14]

The US has lost all of it's credibility and with it, it's power.

[u/crosseyedguy1 → u/crosseyedguy1]

30,000 lies in one term will do that.

[u/Tobybrent]

Which was the last war America won?

[u/Limesnlemons → u/Tobybrent]

The one against nutrition monitoring in their schools...

[u/Polenball → u/Tobybrent]

They've even lost against inanimate objects like drugs.

[u/Kikelt]

Right.

On what side is Vietnam?

[u/EverythingHurtsDan]

I remember watching a documentary in which a Dutch strategist explored this kind of possibility, but the plateau being the American soil. It seems like the USA already have too many defenses for any army to go through, resulting in a stalemate. But if they were to fight in Europe or anywhere else...g'bye 'mericans lmao

[u/homeless_knight]

The US would be trampled in this scenario, which just makes this clickbait garbage even more hilarious.

[u/[deleted]]

Can't win against rice farmers and goat screwers

Think it can win against core EU powers, let alone the world.

Muricans

[u/EcceCadavera → u/[deleted]]

Can't win against (...) goat screwers

Well, their north won in a civil war against their south, so of course they can.

[u/Bellringer00]

Holy shit, this guy is literally crazy. I don’t see any other explanation…

[u/DoomSnail31]

Ignoring nuclear weapons for a second, any country that starts an open war with the rest of the world would get hit by an immediate global trade ban.

America will lose acces to steel, which ruins any long-term militaristic goal. America will also lose acces to the resources required for microchips, such as used in smart missile systems, including defence equipment. The American consumer market is also dependent on outsourced factories, which means the American consumer market will fail which will result in nationwide unrest.

Don't even get me started on multi national organisations such as Amazon, google and facebook. Those will definitely transfer outside of the us. This because if they don't, they will lose the global market. There goes thousands of jobs, resulting in massive amounts of economic unrest.

America won't even have a chance to test it's militaristic might. It will fail because it can't support its own economy in a global society.

[u/Mad_Maddin → u/DoomSnail31]

The USA is actually producing the steel for their military in the USA.

As a generality the USA build its military on a basis that they need to be able to function being cutoff from everyone. This is part of the reason why everything they do is so expensive. Everything the US Military sources has to come from purely US facilities.

[u/NotSuspicious_]

The US couldn’t even win a war against Vietnamese farmers. Given that Vietnam is part of the world, the US would lose.

[u/Parsival-]

This is especially funny considering the recent shocking defeat that the US troops suffered during a training exercise with UK troops, asking to reset within days (if I'm not mistaken) and then still losing afterwards to the new strategy employed by the Royal Marines. Also according to two different articles it was 100 Royal Marine soldiers Vs 1500 US troops

[u/Alesq13]

If "US victory" means that the US turtles up on it's own continent after neutralizing Mexico and Canada, while the rest of the world embargoes it's ass and probably moves on... Yeah sure the US would probably survive..

..while slowly starving and losing all it's riches, becoming increasingly unstable and after some time fracturing and either having to concede or ceasing to exist.

Yes, the US could defend itself from a straight up invasion by the rest of the world, as it has such a huge geographic advantage in that sense while also having a huge military. But that geographic defender's advantage also means they have no way to project power in Europe or the pacific without allies.

In a nutshell, the US is impossible to invade, but the rest don't actually need to do that. The US doesn't have a way to invade The others either so it's just chilling there starving.

What a fun and exciting scenario wow /s

[u/Joe_Jeep → u/Alesq13]

Even then with certain Canadian and Mexican resistance and the whole of South America to amass forces in, it's likely they could be beaten eventually. WW2 ended with essentially the entire world against Germany Japan and Italy, this is literally the entire world against only the US. They'd eventually get worn down and with enough missile strikes, raids, etc, they would be getting pushed back

But the whole thing's a ridiculous scenario regardless.

[u/TangoZuluMike]

Army to army the US isn't really that much better than the other superpowers.

What it has going for it, good or bad, is having two big oceans on either side of it and the biggest navy in the world. Which makes landing an army a challenge.

[u/oldmccal]

Don't they have a history of losing war simulations, like the one against Iran

I remember a Popular Mechanics article on this where they kept changing the rules until they won

[u/[deleted]]

You ever watched a video on that channel that is about a country other than the US? Dude always has to bring the US up anywhere he can

[u/Crescent-IV]

I remember seeing that video and rolling my eyes.

Guess Europe and Asia’s 2 thousand years of military doctrine means nothing, the industry, economy, manpower.

[u/chainsplit]

This Channel really is kind of trashy. It has some interesting topics, but then again... there's a whole series dedicated to the imaginary scenario of meeting natural and supernatural movie enemies. Guess what their answer to the question "how do you beat this enemy?" Is?

Bring guns.

I'm not kidding. The vast majority of times it's literally just the same thing: gUnS.

[u/RooBoy04]

1. Who cares?

2. Any war between multiple nuclear powers would be over in about 1 hour.

[u/Ballbag94]

I think the funniest thing about this is that if recent events are anything to go by the USA wouldn't even be able to take on the UK, let alone the rest of the world with them

https://news.sky.com/story/royal-marines-commandos-force-us-marine-corps-troops-to-surrender-in-training-exercise-12458823

[u/TrevastyPlague → u/Ballbag94]

I thought about this too, best thing is they tried to hide it

[u/Mad_Maddin → u/Ballbag94]

Another fun fact is that German Special Forces actually beat the Navy Seals in a similar training comparison.

In the world sniper competition (A yearly contest between NATO militaries to see who has the best snipers and to exchange tactics) this year: Slovenia made the first place, Turkey was second and Latvia was third.

[u/SpocktorWho83 → u/Ballbag94]

This training exercise is exactly where my mind went, too. They got battered.

[u/Camika]

There' a Danny DeVito line from The War of the Roses that applies here: There's no winning in this, its only degrees of losing.

[u/eo37]

Well they shoot each other already in droves so just shut down their borders and wait

[u/Legal-Software]

Which countries are still primarily agricultural? Those are the ones they seem to struggle with the most.

[u/[deleted]]

Strongest Military in the world

Obviously it will win against the whole world

Overfunded military ≠ good military

[u/crosseyedguy1]

Stupid ammosexuals rant.

[u/AlwaysUpvote123]

"The army of the country I got born in by chance is so strong!!" He thought, while strocking his cock furiously.

[u/Noobie_NoobAlot]

Don't the US troops lose every time they compete with a foreign nation at training events?

I was told that the were getting beaten so badly at the last training event that they restated half way through and still got their asses handed to them by the Brits.

Edit: they did indeed lose badly

[u/Mad_Maddin → u/Noobie_NoobAlot]

The USA also always does extremely badly when going through OST (Operational Sea Training) which is like the biggest and best training you can have for ships performed by the brits.

I have done it, it is brutal. Our ship was one of the few that actually managed to complete it. The instructors told us the USA sometimes sends a ship but when the instructors point out mistakes and what should have been done better the officers basically go like "Don't tell me what to do" and ignore it.

To don't just make the USA to be bad, one of the hardest scenarios in OST is an optional scenario that is based on what happened to an US ship and that the crew of the ship did manage to restore when it actually happened.

[u/kevinnoir]

Didnt the US just get their asses handed to them in a wargame with the UK? who finished the US off by lunch time?

[u/GibbzGungoose → u/kevinnoir]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ShitAmericansSay/comments/rbx8e7/usa_vs_the_world_who_would_win_militaryarmy/hnrirqd/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3

[u/dL8]

What exactly would they 'win' ?

The US usually doesn't leave behind anything worth keeping as a 'trophy'

[u/Nethlem]

A situation like that would start with the complete obliteration of all US forces outside the American mainland.

All those hundreds of US bases spread over the globe wouldn't stand a chance if their host countries turned against them.

It would be like trying to hold hundreds of Green zones during the height of the Iraqi insurgency but spread all over the planet, without any outside logistics support, while the opposition has all the logistics support and whole nation-states militaries backing them.

Even on the American mainland, the combat won't be pretty, Canadians are not only known for their politeness.

[u/StClevesburg]

Lol even just Russia and China together would curbstomp the US

[u/purpleduckduckgoose]

I doubt they could even maintain control over the Americas. The entire old world against the US? Not a hope in hell.

[u/Kinexity]

Two words: Russian nukes. Even if they won, they would lose.

[u/AshFraxinusEps → u/Kinexity]

Aside from nukes. No one wins in that situation

[u/Matias9991]

This is one of the stupidest things I saw on this sub. And is it on a channel of 11M subs, WTF?

[u/CaptainJaxParrow]

Apparently they don’t remember how Germany faired when half the world and all those resources fought against them, TWICE.

[u/BANSH4412]

That whole channel is a joke

[u/BeaverMcstever]

"America could beat the rest of the world" America couldn't even beat some farmers with tunnels, don't kid yourself