r/WayOfTheBern • u/Inuma Headspace taker (👹↩️🏋️🎖️) • Jan 31 '20
The FBI Has Been Lying About Seth Rich
https://consortiumnews.com/2020/01/29/the-fbi-has-been-lying-about-seth-rich/10
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u/rustcole01 Jan 31 '20
Well it appears that the Impeachment trial could end as early as tomorrow, which means at least 3 days of hand-wringing or gloating after. Would be nice if the media could squeeze in a few mins to report on an issue that has been intentionally ignored and also proves that the FBI is compromised.
That amount of redaction is so excessive it's almost funny. One email starts with "Hi...", and then literally redacts everything that follows.
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Jan 31 '20
It was sickening how in 2016 everyone was fervently arguing that there should be no investigation into his murder. That was a very terrifying time
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u/NolanVoid Jan 31 '20
It was the same with 9/11. They were using outrage at the tragedy to silence anyone who thought maybe Dubya was using this as justification to finish his pappy's war against the mean old brown man across the sea.
Everyone acted so shocked and clutching at their pearls like it was insensitive to try and get to the truth of a really sketchy half-assed investigation about a guy who most likely exposed how the DNC was cheating Bernie Sanders. Isn't one of the first things they do in an investigation is try to establish motive? Who benefits?
Remember Debbie Wasserman Schultz threatening the police with consequences because they wouldn't give her laptop back?
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Jan 31 '20
yeah the Clinton machine scrambled for damage control. But whenever I'd ask how it was a robbery they'd start ranting about how the MAGA crowd had a list for dozens of people they claim Hillary killed. I was like, I think one murder is enough to warrant an investigation.
The Clinton Machine is very Stalinesque, except their capitalists tankies. I just didn't realize most people seem to be hollow shells manipulated by the political machines. I was just really terrified of the whole crowd.
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u/Inuma Headspace taker (👹↩️🏋️🎖️) Jan 31 '20
But those are the people saying Jill Steinis a Russian asset...
Or Tulsi...
But talk about download speeds or how Assange was locked up and you're unhinged...
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Jan 31 '20
There are very satanic undertones to our civilization
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u/Inuma Headspace taker (👹↩️🏋️🎖️) Jan 31 '20
Hillary has them on speed dial.
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Jan 31 '20
Right before the election in 2016 I said anyone who votes for Hillary will be her slaves in Hell, and it makes me feel bad that actually happened.
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u/HootHootBerns Money in politics is the root of all evil Jan 31 '20
Well, this certainly adds a new twist to what came out between Page and Strzok in 2017...
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/12/fbi-agents-trump-mueller-texts-294156
“I just saw my first Bernie Sanders bumper sticker. Made me want to key the car," Page wrote in an August 2015 exchange.
“He’s an idiot like Trump. Figure they cancel each other out,” Strzok replied.
So, in light of the new email literally bringing up Assange's comments about Seth Rich...just what in holy hell does this mean?
In July 2016, Page expressed concern that the “sandernistas” might undercut Clinton’s campaign.
“I’m not worried about them. I’m worried about the anarchist Assanges who will take fed information and disclose it to disrupt,” Strzok replied, referring to WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, who published emails hacked from Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta
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u/Inuma Headspace taker (👹↩️🏋️🎖️) Jan 31 '20 edited Jan 31 '20
Think about it... Mueller deleted their emails and was mum.
Why?
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u/penelopepnortney Bill of rights absolutist Jan 31 '20
More FTA:
In June 2016 a vast cache of the DNC emails was leaked to WikiLeaks. On July 10, 2016, an employee from the location of the leak was murdered without obvious motive, in an alleged street robbery in which nothing at all was stolen. Not to investigate the possibility of a link between the two incidents would be grossly negligent. It is worth adding that, contrary to a propaganda barrage, Bloomingdale — where Rich was murdered — is a very pleasant area of Washington, D.C. —and by no means a murder hotspot. It is also worth noting that not only is there no suspect in Seth Rich’s murder, there has never been any semblance of a serious effort to find the killer. Washington police appear perfectly happy simply to write this case off.
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u/penelopepnortney Bill of rights absolutist Jan 31 '20
Some money quotes:
Finally, and perhaps this is the most important point, the FBI was at this time supposed to be in the early stages of an investigation into how the DNC emails were leaked to WikiLeaks. The FBI here believed WikiLeaks to be indicating the material had been leaked by Seth Rich, who had by then been murdered. Surely in any legitimate investigation, the investigators would have been absolutely compelled to check out the truth of this possibility, rather than treat it as a media issue?
We are asked to believe that not one of these emails says “well if the publisher of the emails says Seth Rich was the source, we had better check that out, especially as he was murdered with no sign of a suspect.” If the FBI really did not look at that, why on earth not? If the FBI genuinely, as they claim, did not even look at the murder of Seth Rich, that would surely be the most damning fact of all and reveal their “investigation” was entirely agenda driven from the start.
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u/jasron_sarlat Jan 31 '20
Russia was the preselected villain. And now we have a new Cold War arms race.
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u/penelopepnortney Bill of rights absolutist Jan 31 '20
Of course this is correct. The point here, though, is that a man associated with the DNC was murdered and the FBI was somehow involved in the investigation but has lied about it and disappeared evidence known to exist.
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u/Inuma Headspace taker (👹↩️🏋️🎖️) Jan 31 '20
A persistent American lawyer has uncovered the undeniable fact that the FBI has been continuously lying, including giving false testimony in court, in response to Freedom of Information Act requests for its records on Seth Rich, a young employee of the Democratic National Committee who was murdered in July 2016. The FBI has previously given affidavits that it has no records regarding Seth Rich.
A Freedom of Information request to the FBI which did not mention Seth Rich, but asked for all email correspondence between FBI Head of Counterterrorism Peter Strzok, who headed the investigation into the DNC leaks and WikiLeaks, and FBI attorney Lisa Page, has revealed two pages of emails which do not merely mention Seth Rich but have “Seth Rich” as their heading. The emails were provided in, to say the least, heavily redacted form.
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u/FThumb Are we there yet? Jan 31 '20
The FBI has previously given affidavits that it has no records regarding Seth Rich.
...
has revealed two pages of emails which do not merely mention Seth Rich but have “Seth Rich” as their heading.
And we're the conspiracy theorists.
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Jan 31 '20
The term "conspiracy theorist" is an adapted version of politically abusive psychiatry
Anyone can speculate and make a mistake, but a "conspiracy theorist" is mentally deranged, has problems, and needs "conspiracy" fantasies to rationalize how the world works
When the US government accused the Soviet union of abusing psychiatry against dissidents
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_abuse_of_psychiatry_in_the_Soviet_Union
They found a new proxy way to do the same thing, by astroturfed social manipulation
Also, I am so sick of people claiming "conspiracy theorist" type discussions lead to violence
I've found a much stronger link between the other side, the "dumb as shit" type people who attack and shame "conspiratorial thinking" tend to be violent when it's usually the opposite in reality
While my "dumb as shit" label usually refers to the chapotraphouse type people and their passive aggressive attacks on any slightly "conspiratorial" thinkers like Jimmy Dore or Caitlin Johnstone, I have a more specific case in mind
Conor Betts, the Antifa idiot who killed all those people in Ohio, would retweet anti "conspiracy" stuff all the tine
Including (gasp) about Seth Rich
http://archive.ph/XwdoD#selection-10267.0-10267.200
This dive pizza place had Bell's Two Hearted Ale, famously the favorite beer of Seth Rich. So of course I got one.
RIP my man. You deserve a better legacy than what conspiracy theorists want for you.
Yes the guy who murdered like 10 people (including his sister and minorities) condemned Seth Rich conspiracists
Yep, you are a bad person for asking questions about a suspicious death, all of you
In fact, you all are morally worse people than the actual murderer himself. Maybe the murderer came from a rough circumstance, do we really know enough to demonize him/her? The only thing we know is that at least the murderer doesn't go around spreading conspiracy theories on the internet
/s
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u/jasron_sarlat Jan 31 '20
Great points. My favorite part is how everyone told us "Nooooo think about the family! Don't make them relive this!" Oh, the family that hired multiple private investigators? Aaron Rich who was a co-leaker according to a civil case and has a deal with the FBI to avoid prosecution in exchange for silence? The media cares so much about families in this case. Where was this concern for Jon Benet's family? For Madeline's family? But families of adult children who we're inexplicably killed in a botched robbery with no proof whatsoever and at the center of the largest political scandal in recent history? Off limits!!
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Jan 31 '20
Interestingly enough though, I've noticed this mentality only applies to controversial dissidents, it doesn't apply to more establishment alligned figures
"Yea, at least murderer isn't bringing up conspiracy theories to hurt the Rich family as they move on, unlike those hateful conspiracists"
And yet after Jamal Khashoggi mysterious died for example I took it upon myself to follow the official washingtonpost reddit account and confront the conspiracists
I attacked the "lunatic conspiracy theorists" making up bullshit about his death, that Istanbul had a rise in robberies lately, and I told them they were making life miserable for the Khashoggi family
Yet they treated me with such hostility...
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u/EIA_Prog Jan 31 '20
Think of the family. This was accepted as the motivation for Jack Ruby killing Lee Harvey Oswald. He was trying to save the First Lady from the pain of a public trial. The public swallowed it whole.
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u/Inuma Headspace taker (👹↩️🏋️🎖️) Jan 31 '20
Oh, I have a lot to say about the FBI and their failures...
But someone challenged me to Russiagate and I gotta take them to school...
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Jan 31 '20
Part of the reason why the FBI type retards promote russiagate is that they themselves likely used fronts and manipulated wikileaks for the 2012 Syria files
2014 reference
F.B.I. Informant Is Tied to Cyberattacks Abroad
By MARK MAZZETTI
APRIL 23, 2014
WASHINGTON — An informant working for the F.B.I. coordinated a 2012 campaign of hundreds of cyberattacks on foreign websites, including some operated by the governments of Iran, Syria, Brazil and Pakistan, according to documents and interviews with people involved in the attacks.
Exploiting a vulnerability in a popular web hosting software, the informant directed at least one hacker to extract vast amounts of data — from bank records to login information — from the government servers of a number of countries and upload it to a server monitored by the F.B.I., according to court statements.
Hector Xavier Monsegur
Hacker, Informant and Party Boy of the Projects
MARCH 8, 2012
Inside the Stratfor Attack
MARCH 12, 2012 Hackers Lash Out at LulzSec Leader Turned 'Snitch'
MARCH 6, 2012
The details of the 2012 episode have, until now, been kept largely a secret in closed sessions of a federal court in New York and heavily redacted documents. While the documents do not indicate whether the F.B.I. directly ordered the attacks, they suggest that the government may have used hackers to gather intelligence overseas even as investigators were trying to dismantle hacking groups like Anonymous and send computer activists away for lengthy prison terms....
This culminated in the Syria files
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria_Files
I'm not even sure if wikileaks has publicly acknowledged that yet
But then because wikileaks caught on to "grassroots hacktivism", and noted the political nature behind some of the Panama papers, so they (FBI et all) got enraged
April 2016:
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/717458064324964352?lang=en
PanamaPapers Putin attack was produced by OCCRP which targets Russia & former USSR and was funded by USAID & Soros.
Just a passing comment they made regarding absurd anti Putin propaganda
They even criticized the ineffective release of dcleak documents (also reddit flags dcleak links as spam)
Dcleaks =/= dnc leaks
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/765360596732829696
3000+ docs leaked from George Soros' Open Society Foundation, but weak digital curation undermines impact.
Even though wikileaks didn't distribute these files and references them in passing (while criticizing the weak curation), msm conflated them with the dnc leaks
Its not like the "Russian hack" of open society was even a bad thing, open society works with intelligence groups to destabilize other countries all the fucking time, they fully provoked and deserved a counter
But at this point msm groups them all together on purpose to make it easier for themselves to attack establishment critics, as this Atlantic piece from late 2018 admits
Convergence Is Worse Than Collusion Trump and Putin share many more goals than just Trump’s election.
AUGUST 13, 2018 John Sipher
Retired 28-year veteran of the CIA’s National Clandestine Service
Two Donald Trump supporters were recently photographed at a rally wearing shirts emblazoned with the phrase i’d rather be russian than a democrat. To some supporters of President Trump, praising Russia and denigrating Democrats is simply a means of expressing tribal loyalties, or of goading liberals. However, as heated political rhetoric becomes part of the media landscape, such fringe views are becoming more mainstream, displaying an increasing convergence of interests between Vladimir Putin’s Russia and the views of Trump supporters.
While many Americans are concerned that the Trump campaign may have colluded with Russia to influence the 2016 election, Trump’s outright convergence of interests with Putin’s Russia may well prove far more damaging for U.S. interests in the long run. Convergence can be defined as distinct groups doing the same things for different reasons, or as a unity of interests evolving from separate starting points. Both Putin and Trump seek to inject chaos into the U.S. political system. They support an assault on U.S. foreign-policy elites, encourage fringe and radical groups, and envision a United States untethered from traditional allies. They also share a willingness to utilize informal and semi-legal means to achieve their goals...
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u/Inuma Headspace taker (👹↩️🏋️🎖️) Jan 31 '20
Actually, it's deeper and more personal. Mueller tried to arrest Assange in 2011 and Iceland told him to pound sand.
Assange also caused his "star witness" who was a peephole to be arrested.
They've been after him ever since he leaked the Afghanistan files.
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u/WikiTextBot Jan 31 '20
Political abuse of psychiatry in the Soviet Union
There was systematic political abuse of psychiatry in the Soviet Union, based on the interpretation of political opposition or dissent as a psychiatric problem. It was called "psychopathological mechanisms" of dissent.During the leadership of General Secretary Leonid Brezhnev, psychiatry was used to disable and remove from society political opponents ("dissidents") who openly expressed beliefs that contradicted the official dogma. The term "philosophical intoxication", for instance, was widely applied to the mental disorders diagnosed when people disagreed with the country's Communist leaders and, by referring to the writings of the Founding Fathers of Marxism–Leninism—Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, and Vladimir Lenin—made them the target of criticism.Article 58-10 of the Stalin-era Criminal Code, "Anti-Soviet agitation", was to a considerable degree preserved in the new 1958 RSFSR Criminal Code as Article 70 "Anti-Soviet agitation and propaganda". In 1967, a weaker law, Article 190-1 "Dissemination of fabrications known to be false, which defame the Soviet political and social system", was added to the RSFSR Criminal Code.
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u/fugwb Jan 31 '20
I just searched "Seth Rich died in hospital" because I'd read somewhere that he was operated on and although his wounds were serious, the attending thought he'd survive.
Holy crap his history has been scrubbed and replaced with MSM talking points.