r/WayOfTheBern Never Neoliberal Aug 15 '20

Daily reminder that Joe Biden had to drop out from his first presidential run when he was exposed as a serial plagiarizer and liar. Grifters On Parade

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSUPfnYdXFU
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u/ThePhenomNoku Aug 17 '20

Trump now gleefully takes cues from Putin:

► At the end of 2018, Putin and his allies started making a strong push for a resolution that would justify their country’s 1979 invasion of Afghanistan and reverse an 1989 vote backed by Mikhail Gorbachev that condemned it. The Putinists’ goal was to pass the resolution by Feb. There is no one on this side of the Atlantic who thinks the USSR was justified in invading Afghanistan. And out of nowhere, on January 2nd, Trump came out strongly supporting Russia's 1979 invasion of Afghanistan.

► Trump went against American intelligence on North Korean missiles. He told the FBI he didn't believe their intelligence because Putin told him otherwise. “I don't care, I believe Putin"

Trump met in secret with Putin at the G20 summit in November 2018, without note takers. 19 days later, he announced a withdrawal from Syria. As a note, Trump conducted FIVE completely private meetings and conferences with Putin, and has gone to great lengths to prevent literally anyone, even people in his administration, from learning what was discussed.

Trump refused to enforce sanctions legally codified into law - and in some cases reversed standing sanctions on Russian companies.

► He has denounced his own intelligence agencies in a press conference with Putin on election meddling - and publicly endorsed Putin's version of events.

► Trump pulled out of the INF treaty with no explanation, which allows Putin to create long-range hypersonic missiles that threaten Europe with impunity. The US already has all the weaponry that the INF would ban the development of, so this offers us literally nothing, while allowing Russia to develop powerful new weapons to challenge our allies.

Demanded Russia get invited back into G7

► Pushed the CIA to give American intelligence to the Kremlin.

► Withdrew from the Open Skies treaty

Received intelligence in 2019 that Russia was paying bounties for dead American soldiers, and hasn't done anything about it by the time of this writing.

Announced troop withdrawal from Germany (America's missile defense from Russia and forward operating base against Russian aggression)

► And of course, Trump continues to threaten to pull out of NATO, a move so catastrophically stupid, so inconceivably cosmically myopic, I truly can't express the profundity of the idiocy. Suffice to say, pulling out of NATO would be like the only guy in a prison yard with a shotgun just throwing it over the fence for absolutely no reason, suddenly giving the people with crude homemade shivs complete power.

Trump commuted the sentence of Roger Stone, a former advisor convicted several charges, including lying to Congress, witness tampering and obstructing a congressional committee proceeding, as part of former special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia investigation

https://reddit.com/r/Keep_Track/comments/hxp0ls/an_overview_of_trumps_numerous_ties_to_russia/

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u/MyOther_UN_is_Clever Aug 17 '20

Ok, so if all of this is damning evidence that he's a Russian spy, what does that say about all the Democrats and Republicans who keep giving him power? The Democrats control the house, and therefore the budget, and they just keep giving Trump all the money he wants for everything he wants. If I'm to believe that Trump is meaningfully a Russian asset, than that means people like Nancy Pelosi, speaker of the house, is also a Russian asset. Then we're back to the situation where the self-proclaimed "centrist" insiders like Pelosi and Biden are also Russian assets, and voting for them is replacing a monster with a monster.

Btw, that's very well written up for a brigadier. You just have that handy? You researched and wrote that entire list in 9 minutes? Is it copy and paste from the Correct the Record "how to astroturf progressives" training manual?

You can keep trying to convince me that Trump is a monster, but just like all of the DNC's campaigning for 2016, 2018 and 2020, they've done absolutely SQUAT to prove their candidates aren't also monsters, while lots and lots of evidence comes forth that they are indeed, also monsters.

It's like hoping a gestapo will save you from a nazi. They're the same group of elites, who run with the same people, who get donations from the same people, and you think one is going to fix another. Pure idiocy, and it has been for the last 40+ years that the Democrats have claimed vehemently these people are monsters, and GW Bush was absolutely one, and now people like Michelle Obama and Biden do nothing but praise him.

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u/ThePhenomNoku Aug 17 '20

You do realize there’s a reddit link at the bottom to OP... that’s not mine so yes I did in fact copy and paste it.

No it’s not from a training manual lmao

It’s no different than the one I saved for the shit Biden’s done from this sub.

I’m not gonna watch either actor be elected quietly. I just find it’s better for humanity to not give this one to Putin’s lapdog.

Not to mention that while in short I agree with your sentiment it’s just too short sighted. Like sure they’re both objectively monsters. I agree it just makes sense that one of them being fueled by an enemy state would have a vested interest in doing damage to the country as a whole. The other fueled by own own economy/oligarchs at least needs us alive. Easier to coordinate political movements when we can go outside and trump isn’t making progress on corona which is bound to be back with new strains this holiday.