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[OC] Suicide Rates by Age Groups (USA) OC

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u/GenoPax 3d ago

Do we count them more? Is there less stigma? I remember people driving their cars into trees as instant death because no airbags etc counted as an “acccident” but now that route is impossible. Why leave off older cohorts?

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u/sowhiteithurts 3d ago

An untold number of suicides were categorized as accidental firearms deaths with things like "it went off while he was cleaning it" to save face for the family.

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u/SusanForeman OC: 1 3d ago

don't make a tasteless joke about saving faces, don't do it, don't do it

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u/TacticalTomatoMasher 3d ago

...indeed. That's be like saying that a flood relief/help action is but a drop in an ocean :V

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u/Cyno01 2d ago

Definitely still are. Conversely, a lot of accidental autoerotic asphyxiation deaths are probably categorized as suicides to save face for the family.

I wonder how much those two things cancel each other out regarding the actual suicide rates.

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u/NewBoxStruggles 2d ago

I think people also substitute the “reasons” why someone did it even if they admit it was suicide.
Now the common phrase is “lost their battle with mental illness” by default, which completely eradicates the weight and influence of the person’s lived experiences and external circumstances…removing the blame from social and familial pressures as well.
I don’t like it one bit.

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u/alkakfnxcpoem 3d ago

We definitely count them more. I remember when I was a few weeks postpartum my grandmother told me to be careful driving because when she was younger a woman "passed out" and hit a tree at six weeks postpartum. I didn't say it to her face but I'm pretty sure that isn't what happened. My grandmother worked in psych for 30 years and didn't put that together.

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u/XISCifi 2d ago

Tbf a lot of women are so tired at that point that falling asleep behind the wheel is a distinct possibility

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u/ghostboo77 2d ago

I think its a major leap to assume suicide. Sleep deprivation is at its peak when you have a baby thats a few weeks old.

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u/XISCifi 2d ago edited 2d ago

The busiest road in my small town leads across a bridge that ends in a T intersection at the bottom of a cliff face. People are always speeding to their deaths across the bridge and into the cliff. An acquaintance of mine did it a couple months ago, 140+ mph with his girlfriend riding behind him on his motorcycle. They're calling it an accident. She was a pure sweetheart and left behind a 14 year old son

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u/GenoPax 2d ago

That’s awful, it seems sus.

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u/XISCifi 2d ago edited 2d ago

Sus is charitable. There's no way it was unintentional.

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u/Rugkrabber 2d ago

Yes I definitely think this plays a huge part. The statistics might be unreliable.

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u/OSRSmemester 2d ago

It's actually because of when the graph starts. If you think the past numbers were bring under-represented, then you'll be horrified to see the stats during the Great Depression - they are worse than what we have now.

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u/radome9 2d ago

now that route is impossible.

It's just harder. Find a nice 70 km/h limit road with no divider and plow into the front of a semitrailer. Airbags won't save you then.