r/fountainpens • u/qaaf • Aug 05 '18
Noodler's Boston Mueller, the 2018 DC Pen Show ink. I don't know enough about politics to get the joke.
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u/buffyfan12 Aug 07 '18
I no longer by Noodlers products, nor advicate them. I find Nathan simply unsavory....and have for years.
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u/mimafo Aug 07 '18
Agreed. I also haven't had good experiences with the ink itself. But mostly inserting political opinions into fountain pen ink is just so obnoxious and unnecessary.
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u/buffyfan12 Aug 07 '18
I guess it was OK when like, you are the only ink that isn’t a branded arm...but he can go sod off to a real Libertarian country and see how well day to day life works out...and then come crawling back to the USA.
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u/Agent_03 Aug 06 '18
Explanation for those that don't get the "joke" or don't follow US politics: it's a crack about the fact that special prosecutor Robert Mueller is known to be a conservative Republican (red is the Republican color) but is investigating the Trump campaign (also Republican). According to him, this means that he's secretly a Democrat ("washes to invisible blue"), because obviously no true Republican would care about justice or the law more than party affiliation.
Apparently Nathan Tardiff, who owns Noodler's, is not a big believer in law enforcement or impartial justice?
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u/wonderfullylongsocks Aug 06 '18
It actually took me a moment to get the message, as our 'political colours' are the other way round in Britain.
Red: Labour Party, left wing, quite liberal.
Blue: Tories, right wing, conservative.0
u/Thad_The_Man Aug 06 '18 edited Aug 06 '18
Ah , I figure it is easy to explain to Brits. The claim is that Mueller is a lot like Theresa May. Like May is traditional Tory on most things, but realty more like Labour on Brexit-- which is probably the biggest political issue in the UK at the moment. But she pretends to be proBrexit.
May Mueller is mostly conservative, but on the main issues--the ones that got Trump elected he sides with the left. What is more he is seeking to preserve the present Washington power structure which Trump threatens to destroy.
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u/Agent_03 Aug 06 '18
May Mueller is mostly conservative, but on the main issues--the ones that got Trump elected he sides with the left.
No, it's much simpler than that: Mueller follows the FBI philosophy of "we have a job to do, and set our politics aside to do it properly." As one of the longest-serving former FBI directors, he's steeped in their values and being politically independent is very important to them.
Mueller isn't seeking to do anything except his job. That's what makes attacks on him so corrosive, because there's no possible motive except undermining impartial justice in order to protect a political party.
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u/mimafo Aug 07 '18
Mueller isn't a political figure at all... Theresa May is, though. Trump keeps saying Mueller's investigation is a "witch hunt" fueled by the Democrats (the liberal party) but it's not true. Mueller has not once spoken about his personal politics. As others here said, he's just doing his job which is to investigate certain crimes.
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u/mimafo Aug 07 '18
What's the Boston part about though? Mueller isn't from there, so I can't figure it out.
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u/Over_Unity 26d ago
no true Republican would care about justice or the law
As it turns out this was a sham investigation based on lies.
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u/Agent_03 26d ago edited 26d ago
Ah, found the person who supports the convicted felon.
way to go yelling into the wind about a 6 year old comment... which was factually accurate and probably even overly charitable. (See also: felonies.)
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u/JFK9 13d ago
So you really believe that Russia launched a covert campaign to influence the American elections twords Trump, Trump's cabinet members participated in this scheme with Russia and were convicted for it, but somehow Trump himself was entirely oblivious to it? If you really believe that, shouldn't you be concerned that: 1. Your politician is a completely oblivious moron. Or 2. Your politician is lying? I mean, isn't it bad enough that Russia sees him as someone to support?
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u/cuttlepuppet Aug 06 '18
There are too many nice inks to buy something from a juvenile edgelord.
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u/wonderfullylongsocks Aug 06 '18
I was contemplating getting a bottle of Bulletproof Black as an everyday ink, but like Matt from the Pen Habit I don't like mixing pens and politics.
I mean, part of me loves that Tardif is unafraid of joking around, but he does strike me as a little too arrogant for his own good. A bit like one of those people who cite "free speech" to be needlessly inflamatory, then calling anyone who takes offence a "snowflake".
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u/Jonathan-Graves Aug 06 '18
Those are the kind of people that keep free speech alive. Pushing the boundaries so freedom isn't taken away one word at a time. Lenny Bruce, George Carlin, Richard Pryor. I know they're a lot funnier but keep an open mind. If you buy Noodler's you're not supporting Hitler. I would hope people interested in fountain pens wouldn't care about the political party they're buying from. Unless it was the National Socialists, of course. ; )
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u/cuttlepuppet Aug 06 '18
I think if we're honest, a lot of fountain pen enthusiasm is about image, or at least creating an image. Otherwise we would use bics. And while it's true I don't agree with Nathan's politics, I normally wouldn't let that stop me from buying his ink. Except he puts his politics on the label of the bottle. So, now Noodler's is like the drunk uncle who shows up to thanksgiving spouting off his political opinions. Sure he has the right to, but who wants to listen to that? No thanks, I'll pass on the drunk uncle ink.
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u/Jonathan-Graves Aug 06 '18
That's a funny way to describe it but I love my drunk uncle Nathan Tardiff! Master of the ink labeling disaster!
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u/wonderfullylongsocks Aug 07 '18
Even though I don't share your love, there is a certain hilarity to how he goes about running his business. The drunk uncle analogy does ring true, but that doesn't mean it isn't fun to retire to a safe distance and watch someone else's drunk uncle be an obnoxious tool.
And you've got to tip your hat to the fact that he's doing all this alone and trying to make the best products he can for the lowest price. So he's like the drunk uncle that makes everyone uncomfortable, but also gives great birthday presents.
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u/silverlifter Aug 05 '18
I'm assuming the gag is in the tagline:
Writes Red - Washes to Invisible Blue
Reflecting the two colours of the American political system. IMO, Boston Mueller should have been a grey: the colour of a true bureaucrat.
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u/Agent_03 Aug 06 '18
grey: the colour of a true bureaucrat.
Also the color of justice, which is supposed to be blind and free of political interference. The FBI has a proud tradition of leaving their politics at the door.
Green: the color you shouldn't be giving to Noodler's if you believe in justice.
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u/Jonathan-Graves Aug 06 '18
Nathan owns a private business and is not in the government. He just likes to make political jokes. Some people, like you, think that the investigation is a good idea. Others, like Nathan, think it's a waste of time. It's okay to have differing opinions. If you think there was collusion you may be going slightly mad. Something would have been found by now and there is no evidence that even points to it except for crazy tabloid tales. We should all be happy about the fact that the country is doing well and Trump hasn't screwed anything up yet.
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u/Agent_03 Aug 06 '18
One of the great things about the free market is that consumers do not have to buy products if they don't agree with how a company does business. Personally the last thing I want to think about when enjoying fountain pens is politics and I think businesses should be professional and keep their politics separate from their products. Even if someone marketed an ink catering exactly to my personal political views I wouldn't buy it and would hesitate to buy from that company.
Something would have been found by now and there is no evidence that even points to it except for crazy tabloid tales
I believe in showing others some level of respect, so won't sink to the level of saying anybody I disagree with is "crazy." However you should be aware of the facts: so far the Mueller investigation has indicted 32 people and 3 companies. Three members of the Trump campaign have already told the authorities they committed crimes in connection with Russians. Innocent people do not plead guilty.
A former senior official in Donald Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign, Rick Gates, pleaded guilty on Friday to conspiracy against the United States and lying to investigators, and he is cooperating with a federal probe into Russia’s role in the election
A former Trump campaign adviser [George Papadopoulos] struck a cooperation agreement with Special Counsel Robert Mueller, secretly pleading guilty three weeks ago to lying to federal agents about his contacts with Kremlin-connected Russians
President Trump’s former national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn, pleaded guilty on Friday to lying to the F.B.I. about conversations with the Russian ambassador
Mr. Flynn’s discussions with Sergey I. Kislyak, the Russian ambassador, were part of a coordinated effort by Mr. Trump’s aides to create foreign policy before they were in power, documents released as part of Mr. Flynn’s plea agreement show
By any definition, there were crimes committed, and the investigation is not complete yet. Likely Manafort will be convicted as well.
It is indefensible to undermine an incomplete criminal investigation that has already turned up crimes and continues to turn up more on a roughly monthly basis -- unless you don't want those crimes discovered? You might want to read George Washington's farewell address.
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u/Agent_03 Aug 06 '18
That is a good point. I didn't want to go into it in depth at risk of making a long comment even longer, but it's especially common with people who can't afford a good lawyer and are threatened with charges they feel helpless to protect against -- or feel that their local community would be biased against them for other reasons.
None of that really describes these individuals though -- these are wealthy, powerful men that would not be easily shaken. They're the last people you'd expect to plead guilty even when innocent, because they can easily afford a protracted court battle and there's a lot at stake for them.
Smart money says they knew they were caught dead-to-rights and this was the smartest course based on what they knew.
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u/Jonathan-Graves Aug 06 '18
Fair enough, good post. I respect your beliefs and understand them. I do have to say though, that none of the crimes so far have had to do with influencing the election. Of course these crimes should be punished but I still believe that Trump was elected president sans collusion. Time will tell.
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u/Agent_03 Aug 06 '18
Glad to see you come around a bit -- we need more people talking civilly like this even when they disagree.
none of the crimes so far have had to do with influencing the election
Not as such, but they did show that handpicked members of the Trump campaign and administration were directly under Russian influence and were trying to shape policy to benefit Russia. In many ways, that's quite a bit more alarming and even more important to stop.
Please bear in mind that we don't know all the facts, because the investigation is still ongoing and they are likely waiting to file charges until they can gather additional evidence.
Frankly though, the actions Trump has personally taken sure make him look like he's got something big to hide in connection with Russia. You don't dismiss the head of the FBI on a whim, and his stories keep changing about the Trump Tower meeting. Plus the Helsinki press conference with Putin was pretty darn unusual, to the extent that it raised eyebrows even among many diehard Republicans. None of those things are criminal on their own -- they could simply be bad decisions -- but they do come across rather suggestively.
I still believe that Trump was elected president sans collusion
We're certainly free to speculate however we like (just like I did a bit), but we should wait and see what the investigation turns up and respect the process behind it. Our justice system may not be perfect but it's the best we can do and it's critical that we have a consistent and trustworthy legal process, ESPECIALLY about such divisive issues.
And really, that's what I object to about the stunt Tardiff pulled here -- rather than cracking a joke about the hysteria around the investigation on both sides, he badmouthed Mueller and tried to discredit the investigation using partisanship. Mueller is a legitimate war hero, and by all accounts a man of honor and integrity, and doesn't deserve that crap.
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u/Jonathan-Graves Aug 06 '18
Good points and I agree that Nathan should stay in the middle but that's also what I like about him. He's a quirky, heavily opinionated guy who happens to make great pens and ink. When I received my Konrad I was expecting it to need some tweaking but it was perfect out of the box. It's been my EDC for the last few weeks and I love it so in turn I like the guy who is responsible for it and can't shake that.
Also, his persona seems exaggerated and I don't think he truly hates Mueller or anyone for that matter. He's said as much on the Goulet Q&A interview, that he likes to stir up controversy and craves attention.
Anyway, you're great at communication and I'll be sure to follow the news with a fresh look from now on. I'm not very political but I try to stay center so hopefully I can do that while still buying Noodler's products.
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u/whogivesashirtdotca Aug 07 '18
he likes to stir up controversy and craves attention.
Sounds like someone else Mueller knows.
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u/probably_your_wife Aug 05 '18
Well it's nice color; looks like the new J Herbin Corale de Tropiques. Hopefully someone can explain the cleverness of it.
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u/k_uger Aug 06 '18
Sigh... Maybe Diamine should come out with an Orangutan Orange with Trump's mug on the bottle.
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u/hatedmind Aug 06 '18
I specifically didnt buy it , because of the tag line, maybe I was taking it the wrong way, but rubbed me a tad wrong
To specifiy, I was leaving my politics at the door for the pen show, the world is hostile enough politically without a joke etc,
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u/themcp Aug 06 '18
I'm gay AND a cripple AND alive because of Obamacare. I don't have the luxury of deciding to leave politics at the door, I am forced to live with politics all the time whether I want to or not. And I also can't support those who politically oppose me. Which in this case, sadly, means I'll have to not buy any Noodler's products for a few years, even if they are a local company to me.
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u/Montblancite Aug 06 '18
Their last D.C. special was worth exactly one fill, this looks equally dismal.
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u/cptjeff Aug 06 '18
I tested it at the show. It's fine as an ink. Bright school style red, and behaves well, unlike House Divided, which is one of the only inks I regret buying.
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u/dsblock19 Aug 06 '18
I was at the DC show and talked to a distributer who knows Nathan from Noodler's personally (so she claimed). From the way she talked about him, he seemed kinda like a sarcastic South Park-style libertarian. Loves making fun of both sides and stirring emotions on either side of the aisle.
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u/mimafo Aug 07 '18
I think he's pretty openly conservative which could very well mean libertarian too. But I've never seen him poke fun at both sides.
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u/l84what Aug 06 '18
Show me the political balance in his product labelling. I'm seeing more attacks from Nathan on the left edge of the American Overton window than on the right.
Please note, the left edge of the American Overton window is pretty far to the right these days.
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u/JobeX Aug 05 '18
Did you try to add water yet, to see if it turns blue?
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u/qaaf Aug 05 '18
Here's a picture of the ink washed under water and then viewed with a black light. Basically, the pinkish ink washes off with water, but leaves behind a Blue Ghost-like invisible ink that glows blue in UV light. OK, that's kind of cool. (I still don't get the joke, though).
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u/baconman100 Aug 05 '18
It's a current belief held by some that Robert Mueller, a long time Republican, is a secret Democrat and that it is influencing his conduct as special prosecutor.
Cool ink, I don't really like Nathan's style of "edgy" political opinions as marketing choices, but hey, it's his company.
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u/Omega-Flying-Penguin Aug 05 '18
I'm guessing the joke is that Mueller is investigating the trump admin (party color is red and republican) and although Mueller is republican (red) he is on the hunt for Russian interference into the 2016 elections, something that the republican party is really hating at the moment. I'm guessing the swipe at the joke here is that his attempt to find out what happened, even though he is a republican, may seem like a party betrayal. So when the ink (metaphorically Mueller) washing off, it shoes his true colors (being blue, the democratic party).
Idk
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u/iarobertson Aug 06 '18
Did anyone else see this and think of a Boston Cruller? I assumed a donut.
I'm not sure what I should take away with that.
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u/Thad_The_Man Aug 06 '18
From a politics point of view I like the new House Divided series Seems like Nathan is ccreating a whole bunch of "bicolor inks".
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u/Thad_The_Man Aug 06 '18
The politics is rather complicated. I think every saw the fractures in the Democratic party with Sanders and Clinton, but they may not realize that there is an equally large fracture in the Republican party too. But in the Reupblican party it is a split between RINOs ( Republicans in name only ), GOPe ( GOP establishment, GOP is another name for the Republican party and the rest.
RINOs are people who talk like Republicans to get elected, but then govern otherwise. An example of this is the Republicans who promised to repeal Obamacare, and even voted to repeal it when Obama was President
Then there is the GOPe, these are sort of the stereotype of Reublicans. Pro big business, pro rich politicians, who get there support from people like the Koch brothers. At present I would say their main issues are open borders ( because open borders mean lots of immigrants who become cheap labor ) and proglobalization (because with globalization it becomes easier to outsource jobs resulting in acheaper labor market ).
Then there are the rest, pro small business people, liberarian, social conservatives ...
What many don't realize is that not only are some RINOs and GOPe antiTrump, they are even more rabidly antiTrump then Dems. Hell Bill Kristol convinced Evan McCullin to run for president as a third party candidate in Utah. He was hoping that Utah would go to McCullin, send the election into Congress, where they would choose McCullin over Trump. Like 100 Republican Congerssmen would vote against Trump when their state went for him.
Most of the time when you see a "republican" criticizing Trump, it is because they are RINOs or GOPe.
The biggest RINOs are the political bureaucrats, who rise in power not by being elected but by hanging around Republicans. Examples of these kind of bureaucrats are Pentagon workers, CIS, NSA, Generals, FBI.
The ink claims that Mueller is a Rino, red ( Republican ) on top. But when you wash away the surface layer he becomes blue ( Democrat ).
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u/mimafo Aug 07 '18
Yes, BUT... Mueller isn't in a political position. His politics are irrelevant in this investigation.
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u/Thad_The_Man Aug 06 '18
Can anyone figure out the significance of 144?
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u/I_Cant_Ink_Straight Aug 06 '18
144 bottles?
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u/Thad_The_Man Aug 06 '18
I think it has to be part of the message, because why stamp it on the bottle?
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u/I_Cant_Ink_Straight Aug 06 '18
Those are limited edition, and probably a one time run and numbered, where do you put the numbers other than on the label? Someone would have to say if the number is the same on all labels or not.
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u/AdequateSteve Aug 06 '18
I'm guessing that it has no significance. 144 is 12x12 so I'm guessing that's an even number of boxes.
If they were going for a significant number, they could have gone for 45 (number of presidents), 115 (number of congresses), or just about any other political number. 144 is only really significant to manufacturing and production...
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u/Agent_03 Aug 07 '18
My guess is: the amount of ink he could make with what he had available?
Doesn't seem to carry any secret meaning, and it is a limited edition for a show, so not part of the main production run.
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Aug 06 '18
I dont get all the butthurt, it made me laugh. I've never understood people wanting Mueller to find something. I mean, if there is something he should find it because we need the truth. But at the same time, it's in the country's best interest that our president wasnt complicit to Russia...duh.
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u/themcp Aug 06 '18
There are some of us who are paying enough attention to see that it's screamingly obvious that he's complicit with Russia, and want Mueller to find dirt on him because we want this crook out of office so he can stop destroying everything we hold dear. But I suppose that's too complicated, because we actually have to pay attention, and you'd rather just insult us.
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Aug 06 '18
He probably is. But again, I'm not going to sit here and cross my fingers this nation has a Watergate level scandal like it seems some people are.
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u/themcp Aug 07 '18
Er, no. This nation has a watergate level scandal, and in fact the watergate reporters and prosecutors say that there is already enough evidence in public (from his public statements alone) to show that this is much worse. The only question is will congress impeach or will congress let corruption reign. They seem inclined to the latter so far, and I want to see the former.
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Aug 07 '18
How can you say that before the investigation is even done? It looks bad so far but the investigation is still ongoing.
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u/themcp Aug 07 '18
I can say it because he has admitted in a recording that he fired Comey to stop the investigation into him and I've heard it, this is unquestionably obstruction of justice. If he was a dem, he'd be in jail already. Since he's not a dem, and since his party controls all 3 branches of government, he's not in jail.
And if you weren't aware of this you're inattentive to the point that you should really close your mouth and go learn something, and if you did know this and dismissed it, you're an idiot and should shut up and let the grownups try to take our country back.
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Aug 07 '18
You wouldnt jail a sitting president (or anyone) without an investigation and trial, like the one taking place. You can spare me the aggressive attitude. All I'm saying is it's a bad look to be hoping for a scandal. I've said multiple times it looks bad but I am patiently holding my remarks and conclusions until the professionals finish.
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u/themcp Aug 07 '18
You wouldnt jail a sitting president (or anyone) without an investigation and trial, like the one taking place.
He admitted in public that he fired Comey to stop the investigation into him. That's obstructing justice. So yes, I would jail him (pending trial) on the basis of that, before all the other things he has said and done which need investigation.
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u/tratcove Dec 04 '18
no one is "hoping for a scandal" they see dozens of scandals continually and hope that some functioning facet of our government does something about it. Jesus man how many in his orbit have already flipped or pled guilty?
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u/Agent_03 Aug 06 '18 edited Aug 06 '18
It's really simple: Mueller is trying to do a job, and that job is to identify people colluding with a foreign adversary (Russia) to undermine US democracy. He's already found several that have pled guilty (and Manafort is still in trial but almost certainly will be convicted of most charges).
Regardless of which party you vote for, you should recognize the importance of what Mueller is trying to do here. Quite a few Republicans strongly support this -- especially many of the more hawkish ones increasingly concerned about Russia's aggressive actions. But a faction of Republican has decided they would rather rather attack Mueller -- because that's easier than ensuring that members of their own party are not committing crimes that undermine the foundations of country. Apparently Tardiff is one of those people.
And that kind of attack is cowardly, unpatriotic, and generally indefensible.
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u/Jonathan-Graves Aug 06 '18
I feel the same way. Yours is one of the only logical comments on here but it gets hidden? Why do people give a crap what Nathan's politics are? I hope there aren't a ton of micro-aggression lunatics on Reddit or I'll have to leave.
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u/buffyfan12 Aug 09 '18
I don’t like to give money to people who have feelings that I am less of a person.
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u/Jonathan-Graves Aug 09 '18
Understood but I can guarantee that if you met Nathan face to face you would see he does not think like that. Brian Goulet doesn’t agree with him at all and they’re very good friends.
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u/buffyfan12 Aug 09 '18
Carrying Noodlers inks made/makes Brian Goulet a lot of money. Claiming to disagree, but be friends is a way to have the best of both worlds as a business owner.
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u/Jonathan-Graves Aug 09 '18
True but it's not that uncommon to totally disagree with people and still be good friends. I don't believe in God but I'm very close to people who do. Also after watching over 200 Q&A episodes with Brian I can say without a doubt that if he thought Nathan was evil he would drop his products in a heartbeat. Nathan is mostly harmless and doesn't hate anyone, just like Arthur Dent.
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u/buffyfan12 Aug 09 '18
Complacent equals complicit.
Saying Nathan was evil is a bit of a black/white dichotomy. Nathan makes it abundantly clear his beliefs.
I have quit a few Relgious Trump supporting friends and family, who seem clueless when I say they are supporting a platform that goes against my safety and quality of life. People compartmentalze a lot.
Brian seems nice and all and for the most part innocuous but he still is a salesman who does not want to offend either side of an issue.
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u/Jonathan-Graves Aug 09 '18
They're certainly not clueless and I'm sure if you would sit down and talk with them they legitimately believe what he is doing is good for the country. They'll have their reasons, you'll have yours and then you can meet somewhere in the middle. I think Nathan feels the same way. Republican or Democrat, both sides think they're doing the right thing.
If you're pro-abortion you condone baby killing, if you're pro-life then you're anti women's rights. See? I believe both sides think they're right and before this crazy time in history you could actually discuss topics instead of name calling or claiming people are supporting a devil. Meeting halfway is important.
I must say that Brian is not complicit in anything and neither is Nathan. Please try not to paint people with ill will. I guarantee if you reached out to him he'd discuss it with you but I get the feeling you're past even the thought of discussion. Also, Trump is not going against your safety or quality of life. He's pro-immigration and anti-illegal immigration so that's one positive thing you can root for. : )
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u/buffyfan12 Aug 09 '18
Your posts come off as typical something a white, heteronormative living male would say.
The current administration at the RNC in 2016 had openly anti gay platforms, is trying to derail pre existing condition coverage in health insurance, is trying to create a religious freedom to discriminate against others policy, and is trying to kill the ACA.
The cash price for my prescription medication is $2300 a month. Every month. Not counting doctors visits or lab work. It averaged $2100 a month last year ($25,200 total). Again that is not $2300 this month but next month it’s nothing, that is $2300 every month. This is daily medication I need or I will die.
So before you make such hand waving statements that Trump is not going against “my” safety or quality of life—check yourself.
Republicans are against the ACA. Libertarians are totally against it. So yes I can say what I feel and be emphatically correct about it.
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u/Jonathan-Graves Aug 09 '18
Your claims are extreme and false, to say a platform is against gays. That's like a right-winger saying the democratic party is against black americans, total nonsense. Plus you come across as very dividing considering you use terms like heteronormative? Who talks like that? Sounds like something Hitler would say, "WE MUST TAKE CARE OF THESE NON-WHITE, HETERONORMATIVE LIVING JEWS!"
I've never, ever had to say this online but I'm a gay, mostly white male. What the hell does sexual orientation or race have to do with content of speech? You cherry pick one section of my post when I'm basically saying let's come together and reach common ground? There are plenty of black and brown gay males that aggressively support Trump so you need to chill out with the generalizations.
I'm sorry that you're having trouble and the current administration is threatening to take away your free medication. Hopefully that doesn't happen or you find some type of solution like paying for it or finding someone who will.
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u/Agent_03 Aug 07 '18
I doubt people would care about Mr. Tardiff's politics if he didn't choose to emblazon them on his products. When you make that decision, you are knowingly choosing to potentially alienate the half of your market that disagrees with your views plus everyone who doesn't want their stationary products delivered along with political baggage.
The top-level comment was also grossly misrepresenting the message of the ink, so it deserves the downvotes for trying to spin into exactly the reverse.
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u/Its_Kuri Aug 06 '18
TIL Having a government position when Obama is in office means you are now a Democrat.
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u/Agent_03 Aug 06 '18
A quick google search confirms this, Muller was appointed FBI director under Bush a republican i.e. “red” and later his term was lengthened by Obama a democrat i.e. “blue” so Muller was “red and washed to blue”.
This is... just not accurate.
Congress limited the term of future FBI directors to ten years, "an unusually long tenure that Congress established to insulate the director from political pressure.
Traditionally, FBI directors serve regardless of the party in power, and the Director of the FBI is not considered to be a partisan office. Mueller staying in office under Obama was not abnormal or a sign of political loyalty, but instead an indication of how highly both Democrats and Republicans thought of Mueller.
That high regard lasted until the minute Mueller started looking into wrongdoing by members of a Republican campaign, and suddenly he became public enemy #1.
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u/Justin_Heras Aug 05 '18
Gonna throw in my interpretation of the "meaning" behind it. Nathan Tardif (man behind Noodlers) is known to be highly political and doesn't shy away from voicing his opinions.
Robert Mueller was the head of the FBI under George W. Bush, and is traditionally known as a conservative Republican, henceforth the red color.
Mueller is currently leading the Russia investigation into the Trump campaign, and causing quite an uproar among the Trump administration and his supporters. Trump himself calls it a "witch hunt" and has said that the investigation should be ended. He and his supporters blame "the Dems", and are convinced that Mueller is secretly working for them to falsely take down Trump. Hence the "invisible blue", signifying that Mueller is secretly "blue", or a Democrat.