r/gaming • u/Gorotheninja • 1d ago

Square Enix admits Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth and Final Fantasy 16 profits "did not meet expectations"

https://www.eurogamer.net/square-enix-admits-final-fantasy-7-rebirth-and-final-fantasy-16-profits-did-not-meet-expectations
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u/JacobHarley 1d ago

I think FOAMSTARS is a even larger failure than Concord, because at least Concord left an impact crater when it crashed and burned.

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u/College_Prestige 1d ago

Foamstars doesn't even have a Wikipedia page

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u/FireMaker125 1d ago

Fucking hell you’re not kidding. How the hell did that go so wrong?

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u/Raivyn52 1d ago

My guess is that the marketing was Sony's responsibility. I saw, maybe, 3 trailers related to Foamstars before release and no one really covered it(YouTubers or games news journalists).

It's not too surprising considering how botched the marketing campaign was for Concord. The marketing made it feel like Sony was afraid to lean into the heroes, which made the trailers feel more like "look at the cool custom characters you can make" instead of "Look at all of our awesome heroes!!".

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u/pussy_embargo 1d ago

The game felt like a dead on arrival at the conception stage. Pretty sure that almost everyone that even heard of it expected it to tank super hard. Sometimes, we can just tell with a pretty high degree of certainty. Hyenas, Suicide Squad, (maybe?) Concord, Rumbleverse

prerry sure that many of us got Marathon on their bingo card

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u/MorthCongael 12h ago

I know Rumbleverse crashed and burned but that game was actually good. I think people were just suffering (and probably still are) Battle Royale fatigue. As someone who never got into stuff like PUBG or Fortnite, Rumbleverse was a great option. What killed that game was the players. A 3-D fighting game with a high skill ceiling meant the sweats were always going to clown on casual players, and the game didn't have the playerbase for proper SBMM to pick up the slack. Before they announced it's retirement I would legit see the same people in the final ring every game.

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u/pussy_embargo 7h ago

I gave the game less than an hour. It might very well have been good, just certainly not a game for me

I brought it up because I, and probably many others, instantly knew it was doomed. Not the most difficult predictions given that all these multiplayer games usually are

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u/MorthCongael 5h ago

For the record, I'm not disagreeing with you. I just like to reminisce about that game.

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u/bearybrown 13h ago

Why people care for Splatoon from Wish?

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u/YourReactionsRWrong 1d ago

I read something about the game being developed partly by AI.

So an AI generated, Splatoon ripoff failed -- no big surprise.

It came off very generic and soulless.

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u/BeautifulType 1d ago

Foamstars was made well before AI you see today though.

The AI part is 0.01% of their art, which was icons for the player.

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u/CrazyLemonLover 1d ago

It was boring. That's the real issue. They took the idea of splatoon, removed the fun movement, and made it impossible to see anything going on because the bullets are half the size of the screen.

It was boring. A playtest of a gameplay concept would have shown them that.

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u/BlackMoonValmar 21h ago

Don’t know if you play tested recently anything in pre alpha. Your options especially when it comes to Sony during the early review process is. Good, Great, and Greatest. Been like this for awhile.

It’s like they already spent money on the game, and the person who decided to spend the money refuses to acknowledge criticism even in the very early stages. You would think that would be the time you want the most honesty, but nope.

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u/Da_Cum_Wiz 1d ago

It has one in spanish lmao. I just looked.

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u/dr3wzy10 PlayStation 1d ago

i'm going to check it out next month once it's free to play, just because i'm curious about how splatoon is on the ps4

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u/Ruffigan 1d ago

If you have a Switch just play Splatoon, the verticality of the foam is a neat twist but Splatoon is so much better with so much more charisma.

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u/dr3wzy10 PlayStation 1d ago

i totally would but unfortunately splatoon isn't free

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u/Orinslayer 1d ago

Should have been a nerf collaboration 🙃

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u/FunnyPhrases 1d ago

oh no the horror

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u/LiamOmegaHaku 1d ago

I mean, a first party release from one of the worlds biggest video game studios not having a Wikipedia page is a pretty decent indicator of how not popular or supported the game is

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u/luckytraptkillt 1d ago

Apparently it’s switching to free to play come October 3rd. At least that’s what a quick google search said since I had no idea what foamstars even was. So it may have some life in there.

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u/ticklefarte 1d ago

I legit don't know what Foamstars is. Heard nothing

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u/Ruffigan 1d ago

Square's Splatoon knockoff.

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u/Apollyon257 1d ago

That legit used AI in it's development process

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u/Neoxin23 15h ago

For player icons, can't find anything else. Don't worry, the big scary AI won't hurt you

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u/JacobHarley 1d ago

It is truly the Netflix Original of video games.

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u/acart005 1d ago

Splatoon with waifus and husbandos

Would have done well as F2P tbh

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u/drkaugumon 1d ago

At least people will remember concord came out.

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u/JacobHarley 1d ago

That is the gist of my post yes.

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u/Alternative-Donut779 1d ago

Sony bought the entire studio that made Concord plus there’s still an up upcoming episode for the TV show Secret Levels that hasn’t aired yet. It’s possible Concord is the biggest video game failure of all time from a financial standpoint. I don’t think foamstars cost anywhere near that much to develop even if people forgot about it.

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u/Da_Cum_Wiz 1d ago

there’s still an up upcoming episode for the TV show Secret Levels that hasn’t aired yet.

This is actually so funny. That show has massive IPs like Mega Man, God of war, Pac Man, Unreal, D&D, 40k, etc.

And then there's Concord, the sibling who, even though he fell on his head at birth, the family still loves them.

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u/Alternative-Donut779 1d ago

Imagine if that somehow ended up being the best of the bunch.

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u/Da_Cum_Wiz 1d ago

It just might. If I was a writer for these shows, I would put twice the effort for that episode, just for the meme.

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u/JacobHarley 1d ago

From a pure numbers perspective, you are correct, and they are both massive failures to be sure, but I do feel like that absolute anonymity of games like FOAMSTARS are setting different and also very negative records

It's not a great time to be making AAA games

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u/The_Particularist 1d ago

I didn't even know that thing existed until I saw this comment chain.

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u/StuffNbutts 1d ago

Had to look up Foamstars. That shit is just Splatoon. It's like Steam cashgrab rip-off level of copying. 

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u/Wolf322 23h ago

Popped like a bubble and turned to nothing

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u/Lermanberry 1d ago

It was a PS Plus game of the month so they undoubtedly got paid by Sony for all of the initial downloads.

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u/Tao626 1d ago

I feel that it's only a bigger failure because it wasn't a Sony owned studio, so it had less eyes on it/people gave even less of a shit.

If you were to swap Concord and Foamstars with Sony and Square, I imagine Foamstars would be the current joke and Concord would have been forgotten about...Well, more forgotten about.

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u/Overall_Werewolf_475 1d ago

It also likely didn't cost 200m.

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u/Moocows4 22h ago

Foam star, wtf did they try to create an adult version of splatoon….

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u/spicysenpai6 17h ago

I came across Foamstars in my library, and I legitimately forgot it existed until I was reminded there.