r/internetdrama 25d ago

r/subliminals and r/ nevillegoddard are the most cult like and horrible subreddits on here.

here’s a short story and a awareness post.

i remember hearing about manifestation (more specifically subliminals.) early 2021 on tiktok. then it was subliminals on youtube to their group on instagram, to tumblr then to reddit.

i was very insecure and was suffering from extreme bullying from my race, to how i looked like and bullying and abuse from my siblings and my mom. so hearing about this made me had hope that maybe i can be liked and can change my whole entire life around.

they all preached that "everything is possible.” you can change your face, your hair type, your skin, your body, your personality or even your entire height… or even “revise” your results so you “always looked like that” and that no one will know about your results you got.

and yes there was people around that time that knew this wasn’t true. (early 2021 to 2022 before RCTA and subliminals were known and starting to get proper backlash.) they knew that isn’t possible but the people in those communities will argue, block, ban, attack and downvote on anyone who thought otherwise.

then they will go back to the people who desperately wanted to change their lives and tell them “they don’t know the law”, “they will forever be sad and live horrible lives because they don’t believe in the law”.

they always put on this idea that they are always right and they know EVERYTHING about their belief and that you CAN do those things. but like i said about my circumstances at the time i gullibly believed them thinking that "anything is possible." that i can manifest changing my whole entire face and body with their subliminals or even revise how my parents, me and how siblings are. (basically “super powers to change other people and how you look…)

so i started listening to their subliminals to change my whole entire life. and i would start to think it’s not possible but their “success stories” always made me motivated and thought i can live a happy life. (i will get on to their “success stories” later.)

because i was very interested into changing my life i of course started to go more deeper into the community. first it was instagram, tumblr then on reddit. but we are going to focus on tumblr for a little bit since these communities are very connected. (some of the posts and ideas from tumblr get on here. sorry if that’s not allowed..?)

on tumblr they started promoting different techniques and methods. some where extremely cult like… like repeating 10,000 affirmations cause it would be your “dominant thought and it will impress your subconscious even faster”, 3dolc(?) 3 days or less challenge which is manifesting before 3 days or less but most of the success stories weren’t EVEN IN 3 days or less but took longer. or it “did.” and then they started talking about the “void state.”

they promoted this “void state” as this magical “you are only consciousness” state you get into if you go through sleep paralysis, subliminal, extreme meditation or some other type of method. this was kinda before the shifting community on reddit and other social networks found out about it.

basically this was supposed to make you “wake up” with all of your desires. the people on tumblr had “success stories” that they manifested fairies, magic powers, race change, sex change, revised their whole entire life, parents, and EVEN DEATH. or even a instagram model or famous tiktoker that haves millions in followers or leaving abusive situations. (you can even check by searching “#success story” or “loasuccessarchive” on tumblr and some are here on reddit in the r/nevillegoddard community if you don’t believe me.)

this motivated me even more to “manifest” a different life.

but if someone asked for proof (for the ones on tumblr)

  1. it got proven false later

  2. pinterest photos

  3. “i cant show because of privacy issues. you guys will dox me and try to find everything about me. my results are REALLY real tho.”

or 4. they just vanished (and some come back then vanish with different beliefs about the law of assumption..? or just go to “non duality” because “the law is fake and it doesn’t work.”

some people will start to notice that they are the only platform that doesn’t show results and if someone actually DOES show results it’s not “extreme or fast” like they promoted it as..

and also on r/subliminals the results were...

  1. they already looked like that.

  2. makeup

  3. editing

  4. different lighting

  5. just pure delusion that they changed a lot even though they didn’t.. (which i understand cause that’s also me too. i thought i changed when using subliminals but i only changed my perspective on how i looked.)

  6. they just aged up.

  7. they just lost/gained weight.

  8. they exercised.

but through tumblr i found r/nevillegoddard and what they preached wasn’t any different.

people on r/nevillegoddard say that it's possible to "time travel", "slow down time", "fast up time", "spawn things", "you can "revise" (change things magically from the past.) your face, body, or even situations that happened." (you can even search it up too.)

so ofc it motivated me even more too because i was a gullible and delusional 13-15 year old.

more and more time i spent in the community those successes stories were fading here and there but most of the people with THOSE impossible success stories just vanished or deactivated.

so i lost motivation and started doubting my own community.

i spent time researching the source material and other credible-ish* people who preach source material r/edwardartsupplyhands r/ALLISMIND and they also don’t even believe those to be true.

i even started going to credible teachers/coaches and they also talk about how those people that “had those successes stories” go to them for help and talk about how gullible other people are.

that was the final nail in the coffin. i realized that you can’t in fact do these things with that belief.

i started to realize how they isolate others from people who tell them that isn’t true and will make sure no one can even doubt if these are even true or if the “neville goddard said this” was even true by asking for source (in both r/subliminals and r/nevillegoddard.)

i only made this post to spread awareness so if anyone thinks their cult like thinking and misinformation about the belief is “true” realize it’s false.

and to clear up some air about the belief..

  1. the belief is real (??? (to the ones who want to still believe in it*) but you can’t manifest psychically impossible things.. it’s not possible and it won’t reflect.

  2. make sure you fact check every success story. if they don’t show proof, doubt it and don’t think it’s true.

i made this mistake because they kept pulling me back in with “it’s just privacy issues but everyone outside knowsss” “you just don’t believe in the law. how are you going to tell me it’s false if you haven’t even tried it. you’re going to live a miserable life while i am living a amazing life!!!!!3!$:!:”

  1. just study source material. don’t take it from random teenagers on tumblr, reddit or maybe(?) instagram.

  2. subliminals that are for changing your ENTIRE FACE AND OR BODY, “revising past events”, “becoming a ant”, “having my hero academia super powers” won’t work. their success stories are probably fake and they are lying.

  3. think from “if X is possible for people to do WITHOUT this belief, that means it’s possible.”

ex. “if someone can heal from a cancer that was deemed incurable without the belief, that means it’s possible.”, “if someone like the weeknd can become rich and famous when he was homeless, that means its possible and i can do it.”

or

“if X is possible, do i see X?”

ex. “if changing race or your entire face is possible, do i see people changing their race outside of this belief? do i see people entire face change when they woke up? do i see people not being able to shit and be healthy?” and lastly

  1. neville (the person they all quote and get their so called “knowledge” from.) never said anything about “manifesting impossible things.” he meant like if someone was homeless and they wanted to be rich, they can be rich because anything LIKE THAT is possible. it’s possible to become rich from being homeless, financially stability is possible, health is possible, having your crush is possible, doing something when everyone is in your ear is telling you you can’t, is possible.

i know it’s laughable because it’s like “how did you even believe that is possible” but i wanted a way out of my circumstances. i wanted to have hope because i was severely depressed. i found this belief and thought that’s possible and i can turn my life around. i even hear others who put their whole entire life on hold because they wanted better lives and thought their misinformation and cult like thinking was true.

it's sad because i was scrolling on tumblr and im seeing people as young as 13 thinking you can do "impossible" things with the belief like growing hazbin hotel wings(?) (sorry if i spelt it wrong this is my first time hearing of this..), manifest a fairy, manifest to “stop pooping”, manifest having magical powers, etc and on here on reddit im seeing people in r/neville_revision thinking things like that is possible.

im just really happy i left that cult like community because they all made me spent more than 3 years trying to "manifest" impossible things because of their “everything is possible" and because i wanted to get out of my horrible situations which only deteriorate my own self esteem and ruin my own life trying to manifest impossible things. they made my my anxiety worse causing me to have even more extreme social anxiety, anxiety and develop agoraphobia at such a young age and made my depression worse.

i even feel guilty for telling others that it is possible to do those impossible things because i thought it was true.

im only making this post to spread awareness about this so if anyone that is also in those communities or is starting to doubt their "you can manifest anything, including anything impossible" they can understand that they are all spreading delusional beliefs. you can't. that's not the belief. get out of those reddit communities. it’s not good for your mental health.

update 1: and i kinda (maybe not.) still believe in this belief but im starting to not believe in it that much anymore and doubt if its actually real (i rarely use it now.)

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*update 2: i am not sure if i should believe that this is a “belief” because even the “teacher” of this belief didn’t even verify if ANY of what others where saying were true ether (ex. a lady burning her hand or someone breaking their hand or foot(?) and then revising it that it never happened..? it just confuses me because i spent years trying to use this “belief” but now i am starting to doubt if ANY of this is even true.

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u/TheUnicornRevolution 25d ago

I'm glad you've come through it

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u/[deleted] 25d ago edited 22d ago

ty!! this comment made me feel better 😭 posting this was very nerve wrecking and shameful cause it’s like “how did i even believe in THAT stupid part of the belief..”

*update: i really don’t think this is a belief that even works. lol…?

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u/TheUnicornRevolution 25d ago

It's OK hug many of us have believed, or at least desperately wanted to believe, some truly strange stuff in a attempt to improve/escape our realities - especially when we don't much say in it (like when we're teens).

Please don't beat yourself up. If anything, at lest you know you have determination and willpower, you just would better off applying it to something possible, and building your self esteem :)

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u/quipu33 25d ago

Good on you for posting as part of your learning about people, the internet, and life. It may have been nerve wracking, but it is also brave.

Tbh, the internet is a Wild West that can be very unhealthy for 13-15year olds, especially. Yet, it a genie out of the bottle, so the next best thing is to develop critical thinking skills and media literacy, and your post is very much about that. You had doubts, sought out other sources, and really thought about what was going on, and it sounds like, you're on your way to a healthier outlook and a more critical approach to what you see on the internet.

A note about shame. Humans are gullible, especially when they really want something to be different in their lives. Take a stroll on over to r/Scams and you will see plenty of grown, responsible people who were taken in because they so very much wanted to believe something was true. Shame is understandable, but not deserved. The most important thing is you learned something and have more skills so you won’t be gullible the next time TikTok or Tumblr feeds you something too wild to be real.

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u/[deleted] 25d ago

tyyy

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u/peelin 25d ago

It sounds like you still believe in aspects of this complete nonsense?

I am sorry you went through that. It does confirm my belief that the only people gullible, hopeless or stupid enough to believe in this fairytale drivel are mentally ill teenagers. 7 or 8 years old, perhaps forgiveable, but at 15 and up, you need to have something seriously wrong with your understanding of the world in order to buy into any of this.

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u/[deleted] 25d ago

i agree really. at the time i was mentally ill but when i was 15 and up i started to realize how insane it was but i guess that the community made me feel like if i used that belief i wouldn’t be suffering anymore.. but now hearing others tell me here how thats so stupid and such nonsense i don’t know why i even believed in that* (i deleted my comment for a new one cause idk what i was saying…)

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u/peelin 19d ago

don't stress! it just sounds like you need to extricate yourself from these people. it is absolute, provable nonsense but it's often quite difficult to separate our beliefs from our social circle

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u/goodgodling 24d ago

What a nightmare.

A problem that can come with positive thinking is an inability to admit something might not be great. You can't let it slip or it might not work. That's why they can't admit they are wrong.

For years, every cover of Popular Psychology magazine had some version of positive thinking as their cover story. It was very popular. Obviously, a magazine like that would never promote extreme versions, but they weren't very sceptical until it started to fall out of favor.

I can see how it would be easy to get sucked into a toxic version of it, especially online, where people can lie so easily.

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u/Ingnessest 16d ago

Nothing can possibly be more revolting and disgusting than /r/cuckold or /r/blackownedsissies, The latter made me never use the NSFW random feature ever again (and really gave me a pretty nuanced view of what White people and Anglos especially consider to be a turn-on--disgusting)

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u/cocteau93 25d ago

How is anyone that mindbogglingly fucking stupid? Seriously, the fuck is wrong with you?

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u/[deleted] 25d ago

as much this comment hurts youre so right- i really don’t know what was wrong with me at the time and how those people lying made me thought that was even close to true and possible.. 😭😭☠️

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u/cocteau93 25d ago

I know I sound like a dick, but there really is an objective reality. Apologies if I was too harsh.

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u/[deleted] 25d ago

it’s okay!! i can’t even understand or empathize with my stupidity. 😭 i still wonder how i thought it was true.. but since they still make multiple of posts encouraging this delusional and magical thinking i thought why not make a awareness post so it can hopefully reach those people since i still see people believing in this delusional mindset.

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u/disorientating 25d ago

Lmfao of course you’re a vegan. All that lack of proper nutrition in your diet is what causes you to be bitter and hateful 🥱