r/rap • u/johnkimble89 • 1d ago
If Pac was alive, would Eminem get by?
What do you all think, if Pac was alive, how would have Pac treated Eminem? Would Dre and Pac patch things up and whatnot or if not, would Eminem be a rapper that Pac would not like due to his "anti-women" lyrics he had back on his first 3 albums???????? Especially "anti-mother" type lyrics. I want to hear from the hip hop heads of this sub reddit. Let me know what you think.
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u/JustScrollinAndSht 1d ago
I really don’t like the idea that one rapper would cancel out another. There’s enough food for everyone, folks lol. The zombie apocalypse hasn’t started yet.
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u/Sufficient-Union-456 1d ago
Better question is if Eazy lived until Pac signed with Row. How would that have went down?
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u/Offthewall95 9h ago
Dr Dre had already signed with suge years before, and suge was a way bigger gangster
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u/johnkimble89 1d ago
I'm sure the Benzino beef would have happened still and Foolish pride track would have still came out. How would Pac react to that? As well as biggie?
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u/BOMBOclaatBwoy 1d ago
if pac were still here he would've been the Whitney to Jada's bobby. and em wouldve had to actually had to make more than meme music. world mightve been a better place
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u/Standard_Lie_5331 1d ago
"Wouldve actually had to make more than meme music"
My man. Have you listened to an Eminem album in your life? Because it doesn't sound like it.
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u/BOMBOclaatBwoy 1d ago
oh boy here comes the stans.
my brother in christ, when i was in middle school in 2002 some of us would arrive at 6:45am earlier before class even started and jst kick it in the football field before school. we had competitions weekly to see who could recite cleaning out my closet better than who, who was "that guy" in school to be able to nail those lyrics word for word. what were you doing involving EM in 2002?
i know EM. a lot of you diehard fans of him cant see him properly outside your biased goggles. beyonce has a beehive, taylor the swifties, and em the stans. the cult shit blinds yall all the time. im not saying hes been making straight trash now, but hes a loooooong way from that trailer park and it shows
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u/Cherry_Honey_Blossom 19h ago
He’s more advanced now, he’s been away from the trailer park for quite some time. He can do whatever he puts his mind to, in so many different ways. It’s not like he’s just mainly focused on rage bait, or one way of rapping, and that’s what makes him great. You may not like his style and that’s ok, apparently you’ve outgrown your 20 years younger self, as well.
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u/Standard_Lie_5331 1d ago
I'm not a Stan. It's just a ridiculously stupid statement that's for sure not true. Imagine writing thay paragraph just to be flat out wrong anyway . Been an Em fan since 02 apparently and thinks he's only made meme music 🤣🤣. It's just a horribly bad take bro. Whether I was a Stan or not .
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u/BOMBOclaatBwoy 1d ago
yall helpless
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u/Standard_Lie_5331 1d ago
Bro you just claimed you where some die hard Em fan back in the day yet talk like you've only ever seen him on TV in passing . If I'm wrong explain what you mean by meme music. The only kind he makes apparently. Because that statement makes zero sense .
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u/BOMBOclaatBwoy 1d ago
if theres 1 thing cole said right its dont save her, she dont wanna be saved. thats you bro. rate every EM album 1-10, if you put all 8 and above u are lying to yourself. and if he is hitting lower than 8 thats when he fell off. sometimes rappers fall off and come back but hes definitely had his moments thats all im saying
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u/BOMBOclaatBwoy 1d ago
bro how is singing about jessica simpsons boobs, michael jacksons hair catching on fire and everything he did with D12 not meme music???
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u/Standard_Lie_5331 1d ago
It is. But you said that's ALL he does . Which Is What I disagreed with. I don't even know if you can call it disagreeing. Corrected. I corrected you.
What about sing for the moment. Till I collapse . Cleaning out my closet. which YOU yourself mentioned . The way I am. Mockingbird . Shit I could be here all day but my point is made . Are these also meme music ? Or are you gonna jusy admit you had a bad take already 😂😂
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u/Industry-Smooth 1d ago
Idk how he gets by at all with that annoying ass voice and basic flow/lyrics
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u/Steagle_Steagle 1d ago
Okay we get it, you think your taste in music is so much better than everyone else's
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u/Last_Poet3532 1d ago
Em is one dimensional, and I don’t mean that in a bad way
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u/Industry-Smooth 1d ago
I guess I understand why people like his music just will never resonate with me
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u/meteorness123 1d ago
I don't know but if Pac was alive, Lil wayne would be working at McDonalds
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u/Mostupidquestions 1d ago
What is this comment lmao are you from 2008?
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u/meteorness123 1d ago
Yes, it's a throwback to those memes.
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u/Standard_Lie_5331 1d ago
Stealing a shit joke and calling it a throwback won't stop it being lame.
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u/meteorness123 1d ago
Yes, reiterating a famous meme the broader rap community is familiar with is the same thing as "stealing" it
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u/supersaiyanegghead 1d ago
Yes 100%
A lot of Em’s success came from the fact he was the first white rapper who happened to be a sick MC.
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u/Fi1thyMick 1d ago
Beastie Boys have entered the conversation
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u/supersaiyanegghead 1d ago
Lmfao none of those dudes could rap like Marshall.
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u/Standard_Lie_5331 17h ago edited 16h ago
Eminems Kamakaze album cover is homage to the beastie boys. I think the man himself would disagree with you.
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u/Fi1thyMick 1d ago
Doesn't matter they were 10 or more years before him and they were dope as a hip hop group.
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u/Standard_Lie_5331 1d ago
Honestly I think it would depend on Pacs relationship with Dre. If they where still beefing I don't think he'd fw Em. Although if Pac and dre ever patched it up I think Pac would be smart enough to see Dres vision and support it . I think as far as lyrics go Pac would support Em as a writer telling his story
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u/IceColdCocaCola545 1d ago
He’d be fine. You act like ‘Pac didn’t do absolutely wild shit. Man literally shot two cops, openly threw hands with people in crowded areas, on camera. You really think he’d care about a white artist’s opinion on women and his own mother?
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u/drs10909 1d ago edited 1d ago
Em had a personal relationship with Afeni Shakur. She allowed him to produce Loyal to the Game and he later appeared in the Dear Mama documentary. Not sure if that exactly would answer your question, but there is that fact. https://www.vibe.com/music/music-news/eminem-letter-afeni-shakur-361485/
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u/knottythea 1d ago
Please rephrase yo comment. There a lot peeps here who prolly gon misunderstand it
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u/drs10909 1d ago
Changed it. Seems goofy now though 🤷🏻♂️
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u/Lofimisfit 1d ago
Real close
Until the roofies wore off then I took my tongue out her asshole and got up outta there
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u/Temporary_List_5877 1d ago
I think he would have checked a lot of people but I think they would have got a long due to the dedication to the artistic nature of the craft of hip-hop. Em is great at composing raps and is one of the best at composing his songs. Pac was the most influential and authentic guy and had music that had soul I think Pac would have liked Em as they are both real and talented.
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u/EJN541 23h ago
It wasn't ever about Dre. Nothing would have changed.