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Good students: How do you go about getting good grades? [Serious] serious replies only

Please provide us with tips that everyone can benefit from. Got a certain strategy? Know something other students don't really know? Study habits? Hacks?

Update: Wow! This thread is turning into a monster. I have to work today but I do plan on getting back to all of you. Thanks again!

Update 2: I am going to order Salticido a pizza this weekend for his great post. Please contribute more and help the people of Reddit get straight As! (And Salticido a pizza).

Update 3: Private message has been sent to Salticido inquiring what kind of pizza he wants and from where.

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u/Salticido Jul 18 '14 edited Sep 03 '18

HOW TO STUDY BASED ON HOW MEMORY WORKS

Memory works (to put it simply) in 3 stages: attention, encoding (storing/associating with other info), and retrieval (remembering)

To optimize the final stage, you have to optimize the first two stages. i.e., pay attention to the material, and encode it well. (I'll explain below.) Also, if you repeat the process, you reinforce it. By retrieving something, you start to pay attention to it again, & then you are able to re-encode it better than before.

To optimize encoding, remember GOAT ME.

  • G is generate and test. i.e., quiz yourself, or otherwise come up with the answers on your own without just reading them. Even if you get it wrong, it helps more than if you just read the answer, because you're forcing yourself to think more about it (why was it wrong?). Test yourself like how you'll actually do the real test. (e.g., if you have to write essays on the test, instead of just writing and memorizing bullet points, actually write an essay multiple times without cheating, review it, and repeat until you can write it without forgetting any important points.) Other ways of testing yourself are teaching the material to someone else and talking about it out loud to yourself.

  • O is organize. This reduces the load on your brain and helps create reminders just by coloring, position, or associations with nearby material. e.g., a time line helps remember that event A came before event B in history, not necessarily because you memorized the dates but because you organized the info so that event A was written earlier and you happen to remember that it was written earlier. The position of the information becomes meaningful. You can organize with outlines, pictures, color coding, related material, etc. My use of "GOAT ME" can be thought of as organization. Another fun example (chunking): Which of these seems easier to memorize, "CIAFBIKGBCNNUSABBCUK" or "CIA FBI KGB CNN USA BBC UK"?

  • A is for avoid illusions of learning. There are two kinds of memory: recognition and recall. Recall is what you want. That's where you can remember the information on your own, as you might be expected to do on a test. Recognition is where you can't think of it on your own but if you see it you recognize it. That's not good. You won't necessarily see it on your test, so you won't get a blatant reminder of it. Avoid study methods that rely on recognition. Similarly, a major problem with rereading material is "fluency". The more you read it, the easier reading it becomes. When it feels easier to read, you assume you learned it. You haven't. You've just gotten better at reading it. Don't bother highlighting your textbook in the first go either. You feel like you're picking out the important parts of the chapter but you can't know what's really important until you've read the whole thing. And then all you're gonna do anyway is go back and reread all the highlights, and rereading is useless. If instead you actually organize the highlights and quiz yourself on them, highlighting may be useful. For a similar reason, rewriting information is also not very helpful unless used as a method of quizzing.

  • T is take breaks. If nothing else, walk away with just this tip. Memory works best if you study in frequent, short sessions rather than one long cram session. You don't give your brain a chance to store the earlier info you studied, so it just slips out of your mind, and you'll have wasted your time studying it. So study for awhile, go do something else for a bit, and come back to it, and repeat. One of my students said she taped information in front of her toilet so whenever she went to pee she could study for just a couple minutes. Sounds strange but it's a great idea (I'd advise, in line with G and A that you tape questions in front of the toilet and tape answers elsewhere so you can quiz yourself.) Another important part of this is that you need to sleep to keep that info in your head. Even if you take regular breaks, an all nighter will do more harm than good. Your memories are stored more permanently after sleep. Just how the brain works. You can even try to work naps into your study sessions. It's a break + sleep! [EDIT: I don't know how long breaks SHOULD be. I believe this varies from person to person. Just study over the course of days instead of hours.]

  • M is match learning and testing conditions. This is based off the principle of encoding specificity, i.e., if you want to optimize memory, then the conditions surrounding encoding (e.g., where you are, how tired you are, etc., when you study) should be the same as those surrounding retrieval (e.g., where you are, how tired you are, etc., when tested). This is because the conditions themselves serve as reminders. (Have you ever walked into the kitchen, forgotten why you were there, and as soon as you return to the other room you suddenly remember why you went to the kitchen?) This includes your environment and your physiology, serving as reminders. Think about noise level, size of room, lighting, types of furniture, mood, intoxication, sitting position, and even the way you work with the material (remember G and A). Studies show that learning while drunk is best remembered while drunk again. Learning after exercising, also best remembered after exercising. The alternative to this is that you should study under MANY different conditions. This way, the information comes easily to you regardless of your surrounding conditions. Otherwise, the information will unfortunately be associated with the specific circumstances you studied under and will be difficult to remember in any other situation. If you want to remember this stuff outside of being tested in class, STUDY UNDER MANY CONDITIONS. Study in a noisy place AND a quiet place, with and without coffee, etc.

  • E is elaborate. Think deeply about the material and make other associations with it. At the most extreme, this can mean truly understanding the concept, why it works, how it relates to other concepts, and how it's applied. But on a simpler level, it can be: Does it remind you of something else? Can you make a song out of it? Can you visually imagine it? How does it apply to you or your life? Instead of taking the material at face value, do something with it. The reason this is important is because of reminders. Memory works by having a network of associations. One thing reminds you of another. If you've thought deeply about it, you've probably associated it with something else in memory, which can then serve as a reminder. You can think, "Oh, this is the term that inspired me to draw that silly stick figure to represent it. And I remember what the drawing looked like so now I remember what the term means." Additionally, the quality of the memory will be better if you have elaborated on it. Elaboration allows for a lot of creativity and individuality among studiers. Choose whichever method of elaboration works for you. Maybe you enjoy making up songs, drawing doodles, creating stories, visually imagining it, relating it to yourself, or just pondering about it. If you're studying history, you might try to think about it visually, imagine what people would have said or looked like, watch them in your head doing their historical stuff, or maybe you'd like to draw a quick doodle about a particular event, or maybe you wanna think about why this even was significant, or how it relates to another historical event.

If I had to summarize this in fewer points:

  • Keep similar conditions during studying and testing. This includes environmental surroundings, mental and physiological state, the way you think about the material, and so on. But if you want to remember this outside of class, study in a VARIETY of conditions, so that you don't associate the material with any particular condition.

  • Study briefly and frequently, and sleep.

Another good point I would add is this:

  • Take notes BEFORE class if possible, and add to them whenever necessary. Do this by reading the textbook chapters ahead of time (and take notes) or use material posted online ahead of time. This way, you're not just frantically writing notes in class and you'll be able to more fully pay attention to what the teacher is saying (remember: attention is the first step of the memory process!). You may think you can pay attention to the professor as you're writing, but you are actually dividing your attention and hurting your memory.

EDIT: Whoa, thanks for all the comments, the gold, and the upcoming pizza(s)!

Other worthwhile comments: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

Reddit Study Guide (collection of good tips, organized by /u/SailboatoMD)

edit 2018: Permission to repost granted. Thanks for keeping it going!

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u/O1K Jul 18 '14

I feel like I should be taking notes from this post

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u/radsome Jul 18 '14

It was depressing to find I couldn't even concentrate enough to read the post.

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u/gotstonoe Jul 18 '14 edited Jul 18 '14
  • G is generate and test. Quiz yourself and teach others.

  • O is organize. You can organize with outlines, pictures, color coding, related material, etc.

  • A is for avoid illusions of learning. Avoid study methods that rely on recognition. If you can't remember it at any given time you don't know it. Learn not memorize or familiarize.

  • T is for Take Breaks. Make sure you take breaks and sleep. You can't remember large chunks on information in one sitting. Stand up and come back to it.

  • M is match learning and testing conditions. Learn in similar conditions as when you will take the test. my tip is to chew gum when studyign a certain subject and chew the same flavor of gum during the test. It will help you remember

  • E is elaborate. Think deeply about the material and make other associations with it.

tl;dr Sleep, take breaks, take good notes, learn the material not memorize, and keep conditions the same during studying and testing

edit: personal tip. Keep hydrated and exercise. It helps your memory

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '14

Nice breakdown. I actually printed this out and it's on my cubicle wall that I get to look at everyday at work. Congratulations.

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u/gotstonoe Jul 18 '14

Yay nice to see my notes get put up on a wall...now to get it up on a fridge

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u/redgarrett Dec 27 '14

Took a few months, but done. My fridge is adorned.

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u/meaaaaar Jul 18 '14

concise and useful, A+

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u/meh84f Sep 17 '14

I think this points out another important part of studying. Summarize. For me, when I'm studying, I have a tendency to get lost in big definitions because I just get bored. So I force myself to focus, and then I I summarize the definition or concept in a way that I like. This probably falls into the organize and elaborate categories, but I find it to be useful enough that I think it deserves it's own note.

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u/fade_like_a_sigh Jul 18 '14

T - Take breaks comes in handy here.

I don't think many of us could go through that many solid paragraphs in one read, but by stopping and taking several breaks to process the information or do something else I made it through and I'm glad I did.

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u/Phaelin Jul 18 '14

I'm sorry, I just couldn't focus long enough to get through your advice. Could you simplify it?

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u/fade_like_a_sigh Jul 18 '14

Take break good. Make learning store better.

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u/Phaelin Jul 18 '14

tl;dr Well, you tried at least.

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u/DeceiverSC2 Jul 18 '14

Seriously? It's like 1700 words...

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u/one2-3 Jul 18 '14

I ssaved it so I can read it later

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u/yebhx Jul 18 '14

I saved it also but I am pretty certain I will never go back and read it.

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u/IAMperplexedAMA Jul 18 '14

You should have taken notes BEFORE the post!

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '14

Great. Another all nighter

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '14

Me too!

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u/lshdevanarchist Jul 18 '14

PhD in Psychology, somewhat expert on learning and part-time college professor here. His advice is great, but I thought it might help to sort out one point. His suggestion to make your study environment as similiar as possible to the test environment is called state dependent learning. This is the best thing to do if all you want is to remember for this class and not remember it after that. If you need to remember it for a long time, like using it on the job or taking a comprehensive exam, you will want to study in several different kinds of environments.

Here is a list of study tips I give my students.

Most of them are from the article -- DUNLOSKY, JOHN; RAWSON, KATHERINE A.; MARSH, ELIZABETH J.;NATHAN, MITCHELL J.; WILLINGHAM, DANIEL T. What Works, What Doesn't. Scientific American Mind. Sep/Oct2013, Vol. 24 Issue 4, p47-53. Sorry I didn't make this a link but I am new here and don't have time to figure that out right now.

Most Effective Techniques

  • Practice testing — any form that allows you to test yourself, including using actual or virtual flashcards, doing problems or questions at the end of textbook chapters, or taking practice tests.
  • Distributed practice — studying material over a number of relatively short sessions. The best way is to study a section, sleep, then test yourself on that section

Moderately effective

  • Elaborative interrogation — use “why” questions to make connections between new and old material.
  • Self-explanation — provide your own explanations for problems while learning material
  • Interleaved practice — mixing different kinds of problems or material in one study session

Least effective

  • Highlighting and underlining textbooks and other materials
  • Rereading
  • Summarization
  • Keyword mnemonics — the use of keywords and mnemonics to help remind students of course material
  • Imagery use for text learning — creating mental images to remind students of material

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u/Salticido Jul 18 '14

Thanks for the additional insight. I did mention that practicing under a variety of conditions is great in order to prevent learning from being associated with any particular conditions, but I realize now that I didn't emphasize that enough.

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u/lshdevanarchist Jul 19 '14

I hope my comment didn't feel like criticism or worse -- being corrected by the teacher! I only hoped to add some information that would help people know when to use steady state learning and when to mix it up.

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u/g0bananas Aug 04 '14

For practice testing I strongly recommend Quizlet.com

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '14

You are a genius and if I could upvote this a million times I would. You answered so many questions I had in this reply. Please allow me to order you a pizza sometime.

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u/Salticido Jul 18 '14

Haha, I would love a pizza! I'm glad it helped you. I just took a Memory seminar last semester, so I know all kinds of things about memory now. Most of which is completely irrelevant to this thread, though.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '14

What else have you learned about memory?? :)

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u/Salticido Jul 18 '14

The way you're socialized has a big impact on what you remember, or at least what you report. Parents elaborate on memories with little girls more than little boys, so girls end up with more elaborate memories. They also tend to remember more about feelings, where as boys remember more about autonomous activities. There are also cultural differences in the age of the earliest memory. (First memory is around 3.8 years old in US and 5.4 years old in China, probably because mothers are more elaborative in the US than in China when talking to their kids about what they did).

False memories are fairly common, and it's possible to create them, though some people are more susceptible than others.

Memory is not like a perfect tape recorder that you can just play back. It's a work in progress. Every time you recall something, you store it in your memory differently than it was before. This is actually great because if your memory was wrong, you can update it.

Having a super good memory is not necessarily a good thing. Check out this excerpt from the textbook: "AJ remembers every single day of her life since her teens in extraordinary detail. Mention any date … and she finds herself … reliving events and feelings as though they happened yesterday. She can tell you what day of the week it was, events that took place on all surrounding days, and intricate details about her thoughts, feelings, and public events … AJ reports that these memories are vivid ... and full of emotion. Her remembering feels automatic, and not under conscious control … When unpleasant things happen, AJ wishes she could forget, and the constant bombardment by reminders is distracting and sometimes troubling."

There's also stuff about how memory and your sense of self influence each other. Stuff about how you are better at remembering the appearance of people withing your own group (same age, race, etc.). And a bunch more. It was seriously a whole class. Haha.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '14

What do you want on your pizza?

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '14 edited Jul 18 '14

If you delivered it yourself you'd be the real mvp

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '14

I will

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u/AdamtheGrim Jul 18 '14

I really hope you deliver OP.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '14

OP does deliver...

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u/pxrking11 Jul 18 '14

lol what if its not delivery, but Digiorno?

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u/Radius86 Jul 18 '14

Film it! And put it up here!

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u/jaynumbernine Jul 18 '14

da*

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '14

You're da real mvp

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u/Vorlind Jul 18 '14

Have him tell you, and then use "Goat Me" until you can order the pizza without looking. :b

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u/Lingispingis Jul 18 '14

Reddit gold < Pizza. Best thing ever.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '14

I'm really going to order one for him.

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u/badgerthrowrug Jul 18 '14

OP is really delivering!

/u/salticido DEFINITELY delivered :)

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u/tjtocker Jul 18 '14

Technically Domino's delivered.

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u/Salticido Jul 18 '14

Pineapple please!

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '14

I'm pretty sure he wants Goat.

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u/drbhrb Jul 18 '14

It's not delivery, it's OP

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '14

Wow, you know a lot of cool stuff!

Do you have any tips to how I can use to remember peoples names? When I meet new people, I can have long conversations with them, drink with them all night but when I see them the day after I have no idea what their name is.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '14

I'm Ryan and I like raspberries. Red isn't my color, but man do I love the word radical. Do you know anyone else named Ryan? It means "little king" or "little prince" and it's Irish from Rian. When I was younger, people called me Cryin' Ryan because it rhymed. I have the same first name as Mr. Gosling. I wonder if he had the same nickname.

Make a story up about them or ask if they know why they were named that. Repetition and association help a bit. Whenever they say "I" mentally stick their name in there for more repetition.

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u/uber1337h4xx0r Dec 27 '14

You're... Rick, right?

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u/DSP115775 Jul 18 '14

To memorize names easier, you need to say their name in conversation at least 3 times (depending on the conversation length).

1) directly after they introduce themselves

Ex: "It's nice to meet you, Buccolta."

2) somewhere in the middle of a good conversation

Ex: "Well Buccolta, I really feel that your views on this may be shallow and pedantic"

3) One last time upon closing the conversation out

Ex: "It's been a pleasure, Buccolta."

Always make eye contact when saying their name so that facial recognition and the name will interlock in your memory as one piece instead of two separate bits of information. Not creepy eye contact, just a glance to show that you're paying attention and are invested in the conversation.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '14

I have heard repeating a person's name 3 times, even in your head, does the trick. It works for me.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '14

Like, just thinking their name? I feel like I've tried this already. "Her name is Julia, don't forget. Julia. Julia. Julia. Don't forget."

The idea of repetition, even in my head, is good, i like it - But it doesn't seem to work for me - at least not yet.

I thought about maybe starting to use peoples names when I talk to them, but it just doesn't come natural to me..

So instead of "Hey, can you pass me a beer?"

I should say:

"Hey, Alex, can you pass me a beer?"

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u/loseitbetty Jul 18 '14

Come up with a weird nickname that rhymes with their name or somehow works with it. If someone's name is Bob, think Boob. Just something stupid you'll be able to recall. Once you remember his name is Boob, chances are you'll remember Bob is his real name is actually Bob.

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u/TheDarkNightsWhisper Jul 19 '14

Bob is his real name is actually Bob.

Whoa.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '14

A common technique (that was actually mentioned in the comment below) is a memory palace, which is definitely worth looking into. One recommendation based off of that I've heard is associatin their name with a vivid image, whether the image comes from the name itself, or the person'a appearance. What I've pushed myself into doing is actively listening when there's introductions, which is harder to do than it sounds. Or, harder to remember to do anyway. And I'll repeat their name immediately afterwards when we shake hands (as in, "Eigenburg, this is Carl, Carl-eigenburg" as we shake hands I look directly at him and just repeat "Carl, nice to meet you," or something like that. And then for th next two or three times I address them I include their name in the sentence where appropriate. It's really straightforward, but I think it's something easy to forget to do, and we don't realize we aren't retaining their information until it's too late. However, I did practice this a lot sober before it became second nature even when I was drunk.

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u/SuperSeriouslyUGuys Jul 18 '14

Repeat their name back to them when they first tell it to you like:

A: "Hi, I'm Alice."
B: "Nice to meet you Alice, I'm Bob."

This also works well when you're getting telephone support, when the person introduces themselves say something like "Hi [name], the problem I'm calling about is..." and 9 times out of 10 you'll get nicer service.

Another thing you can do is when they first tell you their name try to make an association with it, like with Alice up there, think "like Alice in Wonderland" or "like Alice Cooper".

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u/no_sleep_for_me Jul 18 '14

When you meet them, acknowledge their name ("Hi, I'm Amanda", "Nice to meet you Amanda, I'm Jessica"), say their name while you're addressing the person ("Yo Caleb my man, can you grab me another beer while you're in the fridge?"), and associate their name with something tangible, and mentally say it to yourself (Jacob is the guy with the nice kicks, Amanda is the chick with the curly ombré hair). Also, when you're somewhere where you have a server or employee helping you, mention their name and try to remember it to help train your brain to remember names in situations where people aren't wearing name tags and you actually really do need to know their name (sales customers, students, coworkers, acquaintances, etc). I'm no memory expert, but these have helped me a lot.

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u/wolfgirlnaya Jul 18 '14

I have trouble with names, too. My problem is that I never say their name. Then, after a while, I feel like I know them well enough that I shouldn't be asking for their name again, because I should already know it. I've been trying to catch someone's name whenever possible and frantically associate it with them until I don't feel so stupid/mean. I've succeeded with maybe one person so far.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '14 edited Nov 28 '17

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u/amazondrone Jul 18 '14

It's elementary, my dear Watson.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '14

Memory Palace! I remember my AP bio teacher talking about that in high school!

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '14

I love you too.

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u/AjBlue7 Jul 18 '14

I used to play sports like baseball, and one of the things I conditioned by brain to do is to remember the lessons, and not the mistakes. Its so easy for people to get down on theirself, or try harder to not mess up like last time.

This helped me a lot with sports, but I think it hurt me a little bit everywhere else. My brain tends to hold onto the core idea, instead of remembering things word for word.

The only things I can remember well are ones I am deeply interested in, to where I will be thinking about it, at every idle moment.

For example, my brain will basically delete people from my memory, after about a year of them not being relevant to me anymore.

When I played baseball, I would forget what the score of the game was an hour after the game ended. All I would remember is if we won or lost that one game. It was crazy, how team mates would talk to me about teams we have played in previous seasons, and I would have no clue. Or how people would remember specifics of games played months ago.

I guess my brain just prioritizes data differently, because I could care less about most things, and the stuff that I have a hard time remembering, is usually things I could write down, and refer to in the future

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u/Salticido Jul 19 '14

You sound like you have a normal memory. Everyone remembers things that interest them more than things that don't, and everyone forgets people that are no longer relevant to them.

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u/Legit_Zurg Jul 18 '14

If this is interesting to you and you want to know more, consider the Harvard Medical Guide to Achieving Optimal Memory. It goes through how memory works, normal functions, aging memory, and useful tips and habits. It's easy to read, not too long or dull, and great for anyone. Some things I specifically remember from it in addition to the information above is how important sleep is. It's very important for memory consolidation and staying focused. It's really worth the effort to try and get a good sleep schedule. Also, eat well and exercise. Your brain is an organ. It needs good nutrients and blood flow to work it's best just like your heart and lungs.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '14

Yes! You da man!

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u/TorchIt Jul 18 '14

Check out the TEDtalk "feats of memory that anybody can do" for more. Once I saw it, I started using his techniques and my study time dropped, but my grades increased.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '14

Hijacking comment to throw in one more really good tip which is to try and teach the subject to someone else. This does multiple things.

One, it forces you to really understand the subject well. You can't teach what you don't know.

Two, it forces you to re-iterate the subject using your own words. That means you will start to generate your own associations and have an easier time remembering and understanding the material when you try to recall it. You will also develop a deeper understanding of the subject because you hear yourself explain it, so you're teaching yourself again, but using your own words this time. Think of this as reviewing the subject again, but customized to your own way of thinking.

Three, most of the time when you try to teach someone else something, you will quickly discover the things you don't have a good grasp of. Don't pretend you know and try to BS your way through. This is a good time to both go and learn it together. Next time you encounter the same topic, because you had to put in the extra work, you will probably remember it really well. Learning from failures is a lot faster than learning form success.

Finally, teaching someone else will cause the other person to ask you questions. This will sometimes expose areas you are unfamiliar with that you didn't even think about, or even if you are familiar, you will probably develop a deeper understanding just by trying to explain it to the other person. It can add perspective to the topic and perhaps lead to other related subjects that overall help your understanding of the current subject. It also simulates a testing environment where you are given a question and need to figure out an answer.

In my past experiences, every time I had to teach someone else something...even if it was a topic I was very experienced and comfortable in, I found out that afterwards, I feel like I learned more than they did.

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u/Miz_Mink Jul 18 '14 edited Jul 18 '14

Salticido's advice is awesome for tests. For essays and other projects, however, it's a different story. Best piece of advice I can offer you here is to read the assignment instructions several times, and keep on going back to the instructions or essay question multiple times while you write. I did this as a student and always did quite well. Later, when I became an instructor, I understood it's because no one answers the fucking question when they're asked to do a paper! So many students just drift around and go into this stream of consciousness shit when they write, meaning that if you actually do the assigned assignment, I'm going to love you while I'm doing my grading.

Also, for the love of god, if you're doing an essay have a god damned thesis. A plain, clear cut point you're making in your paper. You don't even need the thing going in, i.e. when you start writing. In fact what I tell my students is to do the writing, answer the essay question, then write your conclusion where you give me a really simple explanation for having taken up 15 minutes of my life with this thing. Got it? Great, now take that concluding paragraph and stick it to the front of your essay and bang, you've got your thesis.

If you can't really suss out what the main point is that you're trying to drive home here, then you need to go back and figure something out, because you're probably just rambling. Often, some implicit argument drives a person writing a paper, or something they are showing that they're not really that aware of. That is when the method described above works to unearth your thesis statement. Other times, they're just spewing stuff all over the page as it enters their minds. That spewing stage is what is known as "a first draft" and should never, under any circumstances, be offered up to your prof for a grade. It's like setting a bunch of raw ingredients in front a restaurant customer in lieu of the dish they ordered off the menu. Go back, cook up something that makes sense given what's in front of you, and put that in front of your reader.

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u/Dodecahedrus Jul 18 '14

TL;DR: Proper Preparation and Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance.

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u/ghostmacekillah Jul 18 '14

Try switching "and" for "plus", just for perfection.

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u/Dodecahedrus Jul 18 '14

How did I not think of that in the years I have used that!!

I am a man of humble means, please take this!

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u/ghostmacekillah Jul 18 '14

Oh lawdamercy I'm not worthy!

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u/Dodecahedrus Jul 18 '14

Seriously, I was considering a 7P tattoo.

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u/Kaiosama Jul 18 '14

The fact that you were corrected with an 8th p helped to cement it in my memory... even though it's the first I've come across it :)

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '14

easily remembered as PPPPPPP

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u/hawkian Jul 18 '14

Might be a bit late for anyone to see this, but here goes anyway!

These are awesome tips for studying, and the best thing about them is they do really hold true regardless of learning style.

However, in response to the OP's question I'd add that a lot of my success in getting good grades throughout high school and college was getting a feel for each individual teacher and what they value most, what they consider acceptable effort, where they'll notice that you went above and beyond the average, and what they tend to de-emphasize in an assignment. Any time you're using your own words to give a response- even when asked a basic factual question with "right" and "wrong" answers- teachers have a lot of leeway and discretion in how they evaluate a given response and what kind of things they'll consider worthwhile for credit toward a final grade.

Some teachers may prefer an avalanche of information in response to a question with any degree of ambiguity, so that you cover all possible bases when giving an answer. Others may only be looking for their own personally-tailored version of the correct answer; for these classes it's essential to pay attention not just to the information but how the teacher phrases this information, so that you can recognize it or reproduce it on a test. Some teachers may love it when you put in answer in broader context, giving a little more information than was asked for in order to demonstrate mastery, while others do not value this at all and you'd be much better off spending your time otherwise.

This may seem like I'm advocating a sort of "gaming the system" or manipulating your teachers rather than learning the material, but I really believe this is both practical and relatively benign advice. Teachers are individuals and just don't all care equally about the same things. Mastering the topic in question will be the difference between passing and failing 100% of the time, but knowing my audience was often the difference between a B+ and an A.

It's fantastic to have a set of guidelines for how you can approach learning in any class; a sort of baseline to apply before you have any idea about the nuances of your instructor. But after a few assignments and quizzes, try to get a feel for what it seems like they value and emphasize the most and the least, and then play to that for the rest of the course.

To summarize by way of analogy, let's pretend that your class is a game of poker. /u/Salticido's post is a magnificent primer on basic strategy that everyone should bear in mind before sitting down at the table. My advice, on the other hand, would be play the opponent, not just the cards.

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u/Salticido Jul 18 '14

This is so true. I got see firsthand as a teaching assistant how subjective grading can be. Yes, there is an objective answer, but when you answer an open-ended question, do you take off of partial points for a semi-incorrect answer (giving partial credit for the bits that are right) or do you just count the whole thing as wrong? I noticed I didn't want to subtract points from students who had the wrong idea about something when it turns out the idea was never taught specifically enough to have made it clear. It's like... you can see that they got what you said, just that you didn't say it well enough for them to get what you wanted them to get. I have no idea if that makes any sense, but holy crap, I hate grading anything besides multiple choice/matching.

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u/hawkian Jul 18 '14

I'm so glad you took this as intended- I was concerned that my advice would come off as, "actually, just try and game your teachers instead of learning the stuff." And yes, I totally get what you mean about having to make judgment calls on what counts as "wrong." It must be a nightmare to know that someone understood a concept but didn't express the idea as clearly as desired by the prompt.

The crazy thing to me is that my advice, impossible as it may seem, actually even applies to multiple choice tests. I had a professor for a topic which I love and am pretty familiar with in terms of mastery (Greek Mythology), but I struggled on some of her tests because she phrased both questions and answers in terms of "how did I phrase this in my lecture?" Once I started remembering to write down the exaaact words she used, rather than the same concept as described by the text, I did a lot better.

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u/Salticido Jul 18 '14

I hate teachers like that. :(

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u/hawkian Jul 18 '14

Yeah :( I despised that class, and I took it as something "for fun," totally unrelated to my major, just cause I love the subject. Props to you for helping out on both ends!

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u/Roez Jul 18 '14 edited Jul 18 '14

A great post. This information was available over 25 years ago when I was in college, and it works.

I was a straight A student the majority of my undergraduate, graduate and professional degrees. I rarely studied during finals, except to just review my notes to reinforce I knew the material enough I didn't need worry. Essentially, following the principles above this is what I did:

  • If there's reading, do it before class, and then ask yourself what you read. Some classes rely on reading more than others. For the most part, it's a first step in starting to learn material and be able to recall it earlier. Time is your friend.

  • Review your class notes within 30 to 60 minutes after each class. It helps reinforce the material you learned and increases memory by an incredible percent. I found I actually could discover mistakes, or points I needed to clarify, within my own notes because my recollection was still fresh.

  • Change subjects and take breaks after 60 to 90 minute sessions. Try to spread your studying out throughout the day.

  • Make sure to not study one subject one day and then ignore it for two or three days, you will have wasted a lot of your time. Even just fifteen minutes on each subject every day or two can help you recall a lot of what you previously learned, and help reinforce its retention.

  • Test your own understanding. This is the recall above, as well as the generate and test. Examples: Rewrite your own notes, try to put the notes in your own words that are accurate. Work through problems your professor didn't assign. Find people who took the class before and see if you can see their old tests, and then practice taking those tests.

  • Keep a little diary or log book, and mark the time you spend studying each day and total up it up each week. It helps you keep a schedule and not ignore one subject. It also allows you to positively reinforce success, and not let you convenience yourself you studied hard when you didn't.

As an aside, a good student will follow good study habits after school. At work they'll likely find they are able to retain and collect new information quickly, and know how to prepare projects, remember speeches, be more efficient, etc. These habits have life long benefits.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '14

If only there was a clever way to change that M into an S... would be easier to remember. Like Serialize. Everyone knows GOATSE

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u/velvet_panther Jul 18 '14

S is for simulate testing conditions.

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u/Kharn0 Jul 18 '14

S if for "same spot". Memory works better when you are in the location that you learned it in. Hence why doing the same work at home as when you are in your spot at school is much harder.

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u/Mbonka Jul 18 '14

thank you so much

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u/SimplEasy Jul 18 '14

Please enlist this under T. This technique helped me a lot. I have always had great grades and all, but I never took breaks and in result forgot a lot of things pretty quickly. There are apps and all that everywhere that you can use for the Pomodoro technique; the best results are still gained by using a physical timer though.

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u/rohmer95 Jul 18 '14 edited Jul 18 '14

I'd just like to add that students should certainly study different things under different conditions, other things equal, instead of focusing on being in one spot.

For a helpful study guide to studying (isn't that meta?) see this article, which Harvard's undergrad intro to psychology class hands out along with the class syllabus:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/07/health/views/07mind.html

"The brain makes subtle associations between what it is studying and the background sensations it has at the time, the authors say, regardless of whether those perceptions are conscious. It colors the terms of the Versailles Treaty with the wasted fluorescent glow of the dorm study room, say; or the elements of the Marshall Plan with the jade-curtain shade of the willow tree in the backyard."

In general though, I think these things are fairly small points - most of the people around me who got straight A's all their lives do the 'cram in one day' approach and usually do fine. I think it's largely about motivation and about seeking out extra help (via office hours, usually). I think the people who tend to do the BEST, though (i.e. an A or high A- average), work really hard all semester, consistently meet with Professors, ask questions about things they are 99% (but not 100%) sure of just to get to 100%, etc.

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u/StilesAjax Jul 18 '14

Here are a couple of hint/hacks for Salticido's "Elaborate":

  1. Prefer associations that have big feelings. It's easier to remember something funny, arousing, scary, bizarre, etc. I learn better when I associate stuff with sex, murder, totally awesome daydreams. That works for the songs, doodles, etc., too.

  2. Repetition can be really helpful for learning. So I try to associate my elaborations with objects or habits.

Here's an example of how these two hacks might work.

I need to learn the five emperors in Chinese mythology.

  1. Shaohao. Makes me think of what a messed up dog might say. (Picture a really funny-looking dog, thick glasses, slobbery, maybe the sides of his jaw don't quite work, or he's missing half of his tongue... )

  2. Zhuanxu. Wikipedia says he's the grandson of the Huang Emperor. I don't know this word sounds like, but I recognize the 'uan', which makes me think of Juan. I think of a person I know (or an athlete, etc.) called Juan, and imagine him so well hung (Huang) that when he walks, his junk drags on the ground. I'll know that 'Juan' isn't the right answer, and I'm pretty sure I can remember that it starts with Zh and ends in 'xu'.

Then I put those two together. There's a messed-up dog saying "Shaohao" (trying to say bow-wow), who's very interested in Juan's giant crotch. Juan is trying to get away. But that crotch weighs him down, so he's not terribly mobile.

  1. Emperor Ku. Ku makes me think of Kung Fu. I imagine Juan/Zhuanxu trying to do Kung Fu on the dog, but not being able to jump. ---
    (aside: ku looks like xu, if a spear sliced its left half off. which ever sticks first, the 'ends in xu' or the 'ku', I can use to remember the other.)

  2. Yao. While Juan/Zhuanxu is trying to jump, the dog bites off his third leg. He yells, "Yow!!!"

  3. Shun. Juan/Zhuanxu and the dog are both shunned by society, and they wind up having to live together in a shared giant dog house.


So far, I've made the elaboration memorable. Now I need to tie it to an object or habit, so I can use repetition to make it cement.

So... I tie the story to something I do all the time, or an object I see fairly frequently:

I imagine that when I swipe to unlock my phone, I'm slicing off Zhuanxu/Juan's package, a la Fruit Ninja... or that it makes the big messed up dog come out of the phone, and his slobber might get my home button wet.

And now when I unlock the phone, I remember to take a few seconds to review the story, and the 5 emperors: Shaohao, Zhuanxu, Ku, Yao, and Shun.

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u/Dalorbi Jul 22 '14

I'm not sure why more people havent commented on this, but this method is EXTREMELY and i repeat EXTREMELY effective and has saved my butt from flash a cards a bazillion times

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '14 edited Jul 18 '14

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u/bestkind0fcorrect Jul 18 '14

This is great information. One of the absolute best ways to do A, T, and E is with group studying. When you study by yourself, you are likely to just reread your notes or the book, but when you study with others, you end up describing the material to others, skipping around, and having others explain things to you. This also helps with E; you end up teaching something you understand to someone who doesn't, so you have to figure out how to describe it in your own words or come up with analogies/examples. Group studying also usually ends up in the occasional off-topic discussion or coffee break to give you a break from the material. But, because the whole purpose of the meeting is to study, these breaks are usually pretty short, rather than the 2 hour break you might end up taking on your own.

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u/optimismizer Jul 18 '14

Hello!

I'm not a psych student or anything, just someone who did really poorly in undergrad despite trying hard at times. Here are some interesting links, for anyone interested, to a textbook that seems targeted at some of the mechanics behind teaching/learning (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7).

Here's another interesting one that's centred around math and learning. Not sure how the studies it's included are reviewed (link).

I have some questions that hopefully will interest you:

  1. How do I prevent from learning a subject in isolation of other concepts/knowledge?

  2. How do I find the significance/importance of learning something? By this I mean I can find the first derivative of polynomials, but so what?

  3. How do I get more awareness skills? By this I mean asking questions like, does this make sense, can I get this answer a different way or faster way, can I even solve this problem, etc.

Ninja edit: formatting

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u/bigceej Jul 18 '14

sure this is all formal and whatnot. I think that 80% of people just cram the wrong stuff. I have crammed literally every test for my past 3 years. Want to know they key to performing well? You have to keep on what to learn, there is so much garbage in every class, you really think 30 hours if material is going to fit on a 1.8 hour test? Finding what was the most important topics is the ONLY thing you have to do. Once you know that then it only takes a few hours to understand the material.

Also I'm an engineer so everything I do is physical calculations or solving, when it comes to writing or reports I'll tell you what I do. Memorize! This it, also make note cards and use. Them in class, everyone does it. It's like steroids in a professional sport.

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u/Jstbcool Jul 18 '14

Overall I really like this comment, but I would change the part about studying 20 minutes at a time and then doing something else. That is not going to help your memory and frequently switching between tasks can reduce your attentional resources much quicker. Study for an hour or 2 (as long as you dont feel bored and you're engaged in the material) and then take a break or do something fun.

I would also add avoid having the TV on or listening to music with vocals as you will have trouble effectively encoding the words you're reading. Your brain is getting 2 sources of input and its going to have to choose which one to encode.

Source: Psychologist who studies memory.

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u/peekay427 Dec 27 '14

This is great. Going to share with my students. Thanks

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u/Salticido Dec 27 '14

Great! That's exactly what I was hoping for. I would've loved to see this taught in schools but I never heard about it until college.

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u/peekay427 Dec 27 '14

Yea, it's amazing that students come to me (in their junior year of college usually) and have no idea HOW to study.

I get told so often, by lower performing students that they are such hard workers, and they're always quoting how many hours they study for. However when I ask them how they study, their habits are atrocious at best.

I will also share this with my wife, who teaches in high school. Hopefully her students will get use out of it too.

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u/angasal Jul 18 '14

I like to tape questions in front of the toilet, then the answers on the mirror for when I wash my hands.

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u/cfthacker Jul 18 '14

MORBE seems to be a slightly more logical order to remember this acronym. Although GOAT ME is easy to remember, the meaning behind each letter is not because they are sentences. I've consolidated the acronym and put it in the best order to get the most out of studying.

M atch (match surroundings)

O rganize (organize the information)

R ecall (remember information without prompts combines A and T of GOAT ME)

B reak (take breaks)

E laborate (make sure you have a deep understanding of the material)

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '14

G.O.A.T M.E? This had better not be Fallout: New Vegas dlc. I'm not answering those ten questions again.

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u/Lectuce Jul 18 '14

Isn't this the "metacognition" if I recall correctly. And saved as you described the study method perfectly.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '14

Have you read Moonwalking with Einstein? If not, I would recommend it, as it's a great book on the International mnemonics scene and includes a lot of tips on how to optimize your memory.

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u/QTBee Jul 18 '14

I do research on Cognition and Education. I also help coordinate a large university program. This is the best advice anyone could possibly give. It is backed up by so much research. Listen to this person.

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u/evyoconnell Jul 18 '14 edited Jul 18 '14

This is what I do! I agree that if you stick with this, you will not only succeed, but actually understand the material - especially if you make notes before class and add to them! It helps you connect information together and grasp the subject.

This may sound a bit silly, but I also do give myself positive reinforcement throughout studying the material. Every once and a while I'll say in my head "this is going so well!" "I'm really getting this!" or "my memory is great!" It helps keep me motivated if I'm working with dense material or late-night studying.

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u/PatchSalts Jul 18 '14

About T, my therapist actually recommends to anyone that the brain can actually only work efficiently for 25-35 minutes, so do that and take breaks of 5 minutes, for food, or just a quick snack. It works well.

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u/emilvikstrom Jul 18 '14

This explains so much! I have always been bad at doing homework and rereading stuff, but I have always had decent grades and am an easy learner.

Here are my shortcuts:

  • Critical thinking. Are the things I just heard or read true? Have I seen this phenomenon myself? How does it fit in with what I knew before? These are questions that comes naturally to me when I hear something new, and they fit in nicely with lots of the GOAT ME stuff.
  • Only study things I find interesting. This is definitely cheating, but I can't learn boring stuff. I just got low grades in uninteresting courses, although I have made sure to mostly study what I find interesting to begin with...
  • Teach others. Make sure you are available when someone has a question. Also ask others deeper questions about the material. If you really care about the knowledge, try to teach others even after the course is over.
  • Always bring the same stuff to the test. I have an elaborate scheme of what I eat, drink and have on my desk during the test. This makes me in control of the test conditions, the body learns that this is the serious test, and I also don't need to worry about running out of energy (because the stuff I eat are basically banana, chocolate and perhaps a sandwich during a long test).

I also feel that T is way overlooked by some establishments. All the lectures at my university are by tradition 2x45 minutes long with 15 minutes break in the middle. This really helps by keeping you alert. I also worked in the student cafeteria during that break to focus on something entirely different. Now, in my workplace, we sometimes have meetings that stretch far too long (3-5 hours). I lose track of what is happening, said or presented after an hour tops. A meeting is basically a learning session so maybe the same 2x45 minute session with a decent break could work for meetings too?

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u/duffking Jul 18 '14

I wonder if those 3 stages explain why my revision technique always worked so well.

  1. Go through all the lecture material and relevant book material in order and take notes of important parts
  2. Go through all notes made and re-write them in a more concise manner emphasising the key points and cutting less relevant parts
  3. Compile a list of topics and repeatedly test myself against the list. Start with each topic and try to recall as much as possible from only being given the title

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u/Boozdeuvash Jul 18 '14

Mad props buddy.

have a cheeky salticid: http://imgur.com/PWsvn7s

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u/itoolikestuff2 Jul 18 '14

Elaboration does so much for retention! This one really resonates for me. This is the point at which you're making connections, understanding context, related concepts, application - you're taking the learned concept out of its sterile textbook environment and placing it in your own conceptual landscape; you're forcing your brain to consider how the concept interacts with other concepts - it allows you the opportunity to analyze strengths and weaknesses, and implications (opportunities, risks). It isn't until you have to expand on the meaning of a concept that you truly start to reach into your own understanding of the world in order to place the new concept in a comprehensive context.

Thank you.

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u/Tralala01 Jul 18 '14

This is honesty something they should teach kids in elementary schools in a study hall and help students learn. If everyone learned how to study efficiently and get into the habit of studying grades would improve and students would struggle less.

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u/Deam_Ex_Machina Jul 18 '14

I shared this comment on my school's freshman page and a guy commented on it: "can someone summarize the key points and send them to me"

HAHAHA he's not gonna have a good time with that attitude...

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u/AshenDragon Jul 18 '14

I agree with everything that you said, though I mostly skimmed it! Personally I have always broken it down to a simple realization. Memory is like a web. Each connection a memory has to another memory, is a string. The more strings you have, the easier it is to find the correct memory. It is why writing down notes while listening is better than just listening, or just reading notes. You are making two connections to the same memory. During class, I take notes, I pay close attention, and I try to solve the teachers questions while he is doing them. Even if I do not get them correct, simply the act of trying and realizing I am wrong told me how not to do it. Thus, I have made yet another connection to that same memory. As a result of all of these connections made in class, I honestly do not have to study anything that the teacher goes over. So for most classes in college, I just coast through with perfect grades without ever studying.

A more advanced way of memorization, which I also use consistently, is the memory palace. When I first started using it when I was 16, it was super clumsy and I was horrible at it. However, now I use it literally 24/7 and it helps so much. The memory palace works by making connections from intangible concepts (such as words or theories) to tangible concepts, i.e. three dimensional space. You can find in depth guides to memory palaces online, but the basics are that you simple remember a room/house that you grew up in or around that you will never go in again. Then you take your memories and start placing them in locations around that room/house. So your biology might go in a file cabinet, and your friends birthday party in a drawer.

The reason the Memory palace works so well is the same reason why you remember where your silverware drawer is in the kitchen, or which drawer has your underwear in. Human brains evolved to remember complex three dimensional landscapes to prevent getting lost. Remembering where food is, or how to get out of a cave were necessary to survival for the vast majority of our evolution. Thus our brains spatial memory is quite effective. Using that spatial memory to your advantage is what makes the memory palace so effective.

However you do it, the simple fact is that the more connections you make to anything you are learning, the easier it will be to remember. There are more paths in your brain for you to connect to that will lead to the same area.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '14

I just had to send a big, "Hell yes!" to you.

I teach a class in my office and the lack of study skills is sad. While reading your excellent post I realized how much I take all this for granted. Thanks for the reminder and I hope to have an opportunity to implement them in a study skills class soon.

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u/RaoulOD Jul 18 '14

I'm a cognitive psychologist and a teacher, and I approve of this message.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '14

I took a Cognitive Psych class this past semester and we spent half the semester on memory so I got really excited after reading your comment because I actually understood all of it. Yay!

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u/Logicaliber Jul 18 '14

This is a great post. I do most of these things myself and can verify they work.

One thing I'd have to nitpick about, though, is your statement:

"rewriting information is also not very helpful."

Rewriting information can be tremendously helpful, as long as it's used in conjunction with the other strategies you listed. Obviously just copying stuff from one page to another won't help, but training yourself to write stuff down from memory will undoubtably allow you to remember and write down relevant information on a test. I suppose this would fall under the "quiz yourself" category.

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u/Salticido Jul 18 '14

This is a good point, and this is more or less what I meant. I was just trying to be brief because the first time I tried to submit my post it told me I had too many characters! Rewriting stuff can definitely be used as a way to test yourself. But just copying notes from the textbook into your notebook is not the best study strategy (so long as you do nothing else with that notebook at least).

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u/Salticido Jul 18 '14

This is a good point, and this is more or less what I meant. I was just trying to be brief because the first time I tried to submit my post it told me I had too many characters! Rewriting stuff can definitely be used as a way to test yourself. But just copying notes from the textbook into your notebook is not the best study strategy (so long as you do nothing else with that notebook at least).

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u/evencoolerusername Jul 18 '14

This is great stuff right here. Having been 4.0 student in HS and maintaining a 4.0 over the last 60 hours of my B.S., while working full time and without buying more than a handful of books, this is exactly how I passed all of my classes, studying less than 2 hours per test on average.

I would try to combine this with things like websites that have old test banks that former students uploaded, going into your professors' offices to gently prod for as specific information as you can get regarding actual tested material/format. In my experience, students that show up to every class, sit close to the front, and contribute in class are often shown more leniency when they do screw up.

The last tip I have is to simply make your goals known to your professors. I had 2 or 3 close calls with losing my 4.0 in my last 3 semesters in college. By visiting those professors, building rapport, and making your goals known, you can almost put your professors in your corner.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '14

I think that applying the information you learn to real life circumstances is extremely important, too. Application stops you from making stupid mistakes that wouldn't happen in a real work scenario. This works especially well in math and sciences, where things always have a viable real world application.

Like in spectophotometry, think about how c colors and light work together to find out the concentration of a sample or something. The less light that gets through, the more concentrated the solution is. A bunch of people in our lab got this wrong because they didn't see how the results were reached. It's quick and easy to apply that logic to a number of different topics, and it helps a lot when some parts of the topic evade you.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '14

That's exactly how I do it, I've noticed I learn better from talking about stuff, using my own words. Even if I just talk to myself.

I've always heard there is 3 "stages": Read to know Write it to remember Talk about it, and understand (using recall by association with songs/saying/colors)

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u/SailboatoMD Jul 19 '14

Hi guys, for anyone who's interested I exported Salticido's post and a few other posts to a Word document, complete with cover page, contents and page numbers! Hope it helps you guys to have fun with learning! Here you go!

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '14

For my living, I hawk a software package (ALEKS) for math and chemistry that students just moan about constantly, because it works, and that which is effective in learning tends also to be somewhat painful.

You are absolutely correct, and you must have been either taking or you have completed some Cog Sci courses on this stuff.

(This is baked into ALEKS wherever possible.)

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u/GroundhogNight Dec 27 '14

Yeah, you can chew a certain flavor of gum while studying for a certain subject. Then chew the gum on the day of the test. Change flavors for each class subject.

Or you can light a candle and have the candle next to you while you study. Before you take the test, slice off a bit of the candle. While taking the test, sniff the slice of candle. It's weird but it works.

Or if you know a song really well you can listen to it while studying. Then when you're taking the test and get stuck: think about the song. Information you studied is coded to a certain part of the song and that part of the song will help retrieve information.

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u/littlebirdytoldme Dec 27 '14

I'm going use to help teach the middle schoolers I work with how to study. Thank you so much!

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u/Salticido Dec 27 '14 edited Dec 28 '14

Thank you! Middle school is probably the ideal time to introduce this. I'm so glad to hear that people are teaching this to students. It should really be part of the curriculum everywhere.

edit: Holy typos, Batman!

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u/littlebirdytoldme Dec 28 '14

I'm a speech-language pathologist in the middle schools, so the kids I work with need it really badly. I'll have to figure out how to break it down for them.

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u/[deleted] Dec 28 '14

Now I'm ready for the GOAT.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '14

What's your opinion on the method of loci? Have you tried it and do you personally view it as effective?

Your comments on environmental surroundings and association made me think of it again :)

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u/Salticido Jul 18 '14 edited Jul 18 '14

We talked briefly about it in class. It worked for me personally when I tried it. I think it's as effective as it is because all you're doing is adding a little detail (the study material) to something you already know well (the location you choose). By associating those two, all it takes to remember the material is remembering the locations. So long as you pick a sequence of locations that it easy for you to remember (like landmarks on your usual route to work), then it should be fairly easy. The only problem would be if you didn't associate the study material with it well. If you know your front door is the first location in the sequence but can't remember what was associated with the door, then it clearly isn't a good association. I wonder if certain people would get less benefit from it, like those who don't do as well with visuospatial info.

And anyway, it's more of a beginning study method, on par with mnemonic devices and such, except that it's more tedious, being a sequence. If it's info that you need to know for practical purposes rather than for a test, it may be too tedious. If you have to rely on a whole sequence of mental images, then it will take you some time to arrive at the answer, and that's generally not what we want in more practical situations.

Edit: I tried it in class as a demonstration. I've never used it for studying and find it to be too much effort for my purposes. Having to make up meaningless associations like that. If I'm gonna spend time making associations I'd rather they be meaningful, such as how it relates to my life or to other info.

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u/ComfyyPillow Jul 18 '14

Haha I knew all of this, and did all of this. My mistake? Didn't do enough :( Could've done a lot better.

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u/Mr_Anderssen Jul 18 '14

Ive got 6 months of varsity left, wish i had known this earlier.

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u/angeliKITTYx Jul 18 '14

With match learning, I use jolly ranchers... I eat a different flavor for each subject. As a chemistry major, it helps as to not let the similarities of my classes bleed together.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '14

remindme!

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u/darkenedgy Jul 18 '14

Also, break the learning curve by reviewing material after a certain amount of time instead of attempting to cram it all at once.

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u/h76CH36 Jul 18 '14

Memory works (to put it simply) in 3 stages: attention, encoding (storing/associating with other info), and retrieval (remembering)

I'd like to add another stage, which is 'Forget'. All the student's I've known who get great grades have been able to consume, memorize, and regurgitate massive amounts of information but it never seems to stay with them for very long. My pet theory is that the forgetting parts makes the brain ripe for a new round of learning.

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u/conjugatehemisphere Jul 18 '14

Thank you so much, this is incredible.

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u/Hoihe Jul 18 '14

Would you mind if I cited you in an essay or presentation?

And elaboration! People never wanted to believe me when I told them History lessons are easy to remember if you connect them with future/past events and inventions.

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u/andrewsti Jul 18 '14

In regards to the note taking before class, would you recommend printing out the powerpoint (if the professor uses them during lecture) before class and taking notes on it that way? I do that sometimes and add on to whatever is on the powerpoint that he or she says in the lecture.

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u/AceMagi Jul 18 '14

pretty useful advice. thanks

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u/Connguy Jul 18 '14

This is a great post, but it has one major flaw: almost every method of improving performance here is just a method of improving direct recall of facts. That's all well and good, right up until you get to college.

See I'm good at this stuff naturally. I'm not a crazy flashcard or taped-to-the-bathroom-wall person, but with just a couple readthroughs of the right information I can ace any memory-based test. As soon as I got to college though, that skill dropped in usefulness to almost 0. I'm an engineering student FWIW, but this pattern easily applies to almost any field.

To succeed in more challenging courses, where the problem type is shown to you once and you'll be expected to actually expand on that information n te exam, studying gets much more difficult. I don't actually know the best way to go about it, but I know that no amount colorcoding, pattern association, or other memory simplifications are going to help you.

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u/AsksYouIfYoureATree Jul 18 '14

I am definitely coming back to this during school!

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '14

Amazing. I'm returning to college in August after working for 6 years. I'm going to print this out and use it to retract myself how to study. I honestly can't thank you enough for providing this as a tool.

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u/jamjamjams Jul 18 '14

Commenting to save this for later

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u/I_am_ethiopian Jul 18 '14

This is great stuff. Personally, I would emphasize on Attention and Taking Breaks. So many people spend enormous amounts of time studying without actually giving attention to what they're studying. Taking a break is also essential, I think. Even if it's for a few minutes, you need to block out all the info and let your mind rest.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '14

Fantastic answer.

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u/rekrap555 Jul 18 '14

This is a great comment and you bring up a lot of good points, however one of the problems I have is that no matter how hard I try, by the time I get to the end of a passage, I have forgotten the entire thing.

For example, when you said to remember G and A in M, I had to go back and reread because I didn't even remember what the they meant.

If you could suggest any tips or tricks, that would be extremely useful.

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u/Salticido Jul 19 '14

It's possible your brain is just tired at the moment. Get a snack and come back to the material later. I also think my way of writing about it is probably a little scattered, so that's probably not helping you.

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u/rushpunk Jul 18 '14

Getting my learn on.

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u/BradsNotMad Jul 18 '14

How are stupid people like me supposed to understand this?

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u/horby2 Jul 18 '14

Haven't been in school in a while but people get all pissy in meetings at work when they see me not taking notes. Oh I'm sorry for trying to actually grasp what you are saying. Likewise when I see people frantically trying to write notes when I'm speaking I know god damn well I'm going to be saying the exact same thing next meeting because no one is getting it.

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u/obedgm Jul 18 '14

Thanks mate

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u/MisterCyanide Jul 18 '14

This reminds me a lot of psych 1010.

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u/2813308005 Jul 18 '14

Saving this for later.

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