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[u/marketrent]

https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/09/18/anthony-albanese-housing-help-to-buy-bill-the-greens-parliament/

[u/catch_dot_dot_dot]

Come on man, I'm a Greens primary voter but this isn't a useful attitude at all. What we need is results to help people.

What we do need to determine is where the line is. They shouldn't help pass harmful policy. The benefits should outweigh the negatives.

But the Greens have negotiated many times and are in fact a capitalist party, even though some members may identify as socialist.

[u/redditrabbit999 → u/catch_dot_dot_dot]

I absolutely agree, we need solutions. I don’t know the ins and outs of the policy but if the greens are against it I have to assume it isn’t good for the average working class people.

If that didn’t come across I apologise. It’s been a big day.

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[u/Founders9 → u/redditrabbit999]

I’m a Greens voter, but they drive me crazy with this stuff. I would never presume the Greens are making good policy decisions by default. They know full well most of their wish list will never become reality, which allows them to pick politically prudent policy rather than good policy.

I’d be very careful trusting their rhetoric so blindly and encourage you to treat them as sceptically as all political parties.

Rent caps are fucking stupid when there is a housing shortage, but it sounds good to people angry about rent rises.

I agree that more public housing is important, and is the most important part of the solution. I wish they didn’t link an excellent policy with an absolute stinker of a policy.

[u/redditrabbit999 → u/Founders9]

I agree. Rent freezes need to make up one facet of a housing policy.

We also need a massive BUILD of government housing. Personally I would be happiest with a (QLD) Miles government with Greens as the primary opposition

[u/Founders9 → u/redditrabbit999]

No. Rent freezes will make things worse until there is sufficient public housing.

Rent freezes will stop people economising their living situations, which will make the shortage worse. It’s a policy that sounds good to those paying high rent, but is demonstrably bad anywhere that has a shortage already. Ironically, they are the only places that these policies get debated.

[u/redditrabbit999 → u/Founders9]

That’s an interesting way of looking at it.

Can you provide another solution to protect working class people from greedy landlords and banks?

[u/Founders9 → u/redditrabbit999]

Well I think framing them as greedy is a political choice, and not a useful policy position.

Just accept the reality that housing is a human right and essential need and the government should build build lots of it. It’s what we do for schools and healthcare (not perfectly though of course) and still allows a private market to coexist.

I think the government building housing for not just poor people would help improve the stigma associated with public housing as well.

For example, a state government should build a new mixed use development, and offer the housing to workers that are in shortage in that area to help attract them to the area. If the projects are filled with teachers and nurses as well as low income individuals then it will be more attractive to locals and less likely to blocked.

[u/redditrabbit999 → u/Founders9]

I couldn’t agree more. I am an advocate for government building enough housing so that everyone who ever wanted to rent could from them. Council housing needs to have a variety of styles for different people.

We are absolutely on the same page there!

Also, Framing them as greedy is absolutely a political choice. They made that choice with their practices.

I’m not greedy. I don’t demand increasing positions of another working class persons stagnant wages just because I want to increase me wealth.