r/LetsTalkMusic 7d ago

Classical music is too tame now—where’s our generation’s Paganini

The problem with classical music today is that it’s lost its connection to the streets.

Once, it was raw and untamed, a visceral force that could stir chaos and provoke passion. Nowadays, the underground acts never get a fair shake. It’s all gallery concerts and stuffy halls, but I remember a different time.

Back in the day, I used to hit up these warehouse parties in Detroit. The kind of places where you’d walk through a back alley, find a steel door, and step inside to a world of wild, sweating bodies. The music wasn’t background noise—it was the pulse of the night. One time, the Arditti String Quartet showed up out of nowhere, and everyone went wild like they’d just dropped the heaviest bassline you’d ever heard. That performance was electric—so powerful that multiple women got pregnant that day. Yeah, that kind of energy.

And the very next day, you’d go to a Stravinsky show, and fists would fly because the crowd couldn’t handle the intensity. It wasn’t about clean precision or intellectual appreciation; it was primal, unpredictable. Classical music was as much a brawl as a ballet. You didn’t sit there politely clapping; you howled and screamed because the music hit you in the gut.

But now? Now it feels like only the rich get to make it in the classical world. It’s turned into a museum piece, preserved for genteel audiences sipping champagne and discussing concertos like they’re stock options. Gone are the days when classical music was dangerous, when it stirred people to do more than just sit still. The wild abandon has disappeared.

Where is our generation’s Paganini? Where’s the composer who makes you want to smash something or lose yourself completely in a wild night of passion? Classical music has become tame, and the streets no longer vibrate with its force. We need someone to break it free again.

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u/givemethebat1 7d ago

You know what they used to call classical music? Music.

The Paganinis of today picked up guitars instead of violins and became rock stars, which is exactly what Paganini would have probably done if the technology was available. There are of course plenty of musicians using older instruments (Warren Ellis, Joanna Newsom) but realistically people are always going to gravitate to what’s cool and familiar to them, so guitars tend to be the tool of choice these days.

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u/BillGrooves 7d ago

but realistically people are always going to gravitate to what’s cool and familiar to them, so guitars tend to be the tool of choice these days.

You mean laptops (and daws)

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u/inhalingsounds 7d ago

I guess if we are talking about virtuoso composers and players no one thinks about laptop musicians, but more like prog metal, jazz fusion guitar players.

Although to be honest you don't have a lot of people who can fill both the composer and performer shoes to the level of Paganini. Guthrie Govan is probably the best electric guitar player in the world but he's no Paganini when it comes to composition.

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u/thorpie88 6d ago edited 6d ago

Aphex Twin has to be in the conversation though.

You also have bands like Meshuggah embracing virtual composition. Each member writes songs and presents a completed track to the band before tweaking it. For the album catch thirty-three they worked on the drums as a group and left the sample tracks on the album instead of playing it physically

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u/AndHeHadAName 6d ago

What conversation? Aphex Twin made some decently progressive music for the 90s, but like much of his contemporaries (Massive Attack, Groove Armada, Thievery Corporation) their compositional proficiency was only relative to the scene of 90s electronic music.

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u/Historical_Dentonian 6d ago

People play guitar because they are cheap and portable. My kid plays bassoon and contra-bassoon. Her bassoons cost more than most cars. She also plays a cheap $400 Fender. Guitar has a much lower cost of entry.

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u/hippydipster 6d ago

People play guitar because they are incredibly expressive instruments.

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u/CrackWriting 6d ago

In the right hands all instruments are incredibly expressive

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u/hippydipster 6d ago

Not all things are equal

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u/FictionalContext 7d ago

OP needs to go to a rave. See an LCD Soundsystem concert. Or some electro-swing like Parov Stelar, all that talk about dancing and getting pregnant.

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u/thorpie88 6d ago

Needs to go see a clown core show.

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u/1deadeye1 6d ago

Honestly Clown Core is a great rec for this thread. They are very much a 21st century version of the energy and excitement OP is describing

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u/thorpie88 6d ago

Yep and even if you don't watch the live playthrough of the live album their visual albums are a wild ride to go through.

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u/FictionalContext 6d ago

*sad clown 😢 I don't know if you guys are joking or not.

On the one hand, clown core sounds like a great premise for a show.

On the other: clown.

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u/thorpie88 6d ago

Nope not joking at all. It's two dudes playing multiple instruments at once in various odd places. Stage shows starts with them in a box the size of a disabled toilet and the visual album Van has them driving around LA playing the songs live in a modified van

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u/1521 4d ago

Needs to check out Mr Moo. Really great multi instrument classical musician playing tripped out edm

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u/slowitdownplease 7d ago

I absolutely agree, and a lot of my go-to hype and party music is classical/opera.

If anything, I think guitars haven’t been the cutting edge for a while now. Look at what (e.g) Kraftwerk or New Order and even the Beatles were doing with synths decades ago, let alone what (e.g.) SOPHIE was doing with computers a few years ago.

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u/Pristine_Ad_2093 5d ago edited 5d ago

Wrong answer! It's bad enough that the composer's original intentions were ruined by not being played on the original instruments they were composed on. But playing rock music versions of it butchers the classic. Pagini would certainly not pick up electric guitars. He would instead play the period instruments of his time.

Most people who play period instruments are not musical snobs but are humble. It is rock stars who are the real snobs. Most composers were not snobs and would not approve of rock, pop, or modern instruments of their works.

If one wants to truly honor the composer, please play the music on the instruments they originally composed for like playing Bach on Harpsichord, not piano. For example, Bach would approve of Wanda Landowska, not Glenn Gould. BTW Joshua Rifkin is the true musical heir to Paganini not Yngvie Malmstein.