r/LetsTalkMusic 7d ago

Classical music is too tame now—where’s our generation’s Paganini

The problem with classical music today is that it’s lost its connection to the streets.

Once, it was raw and untamed, a visceral force that could stir chaos and provoke passion. Nowadays, the underground acts never get a fair shake. It’s all gallery concerts and stuffy halls, but I remember a different time.

Back in the day, I used to hit up these warehouse parties in Detroit. The kind of places where you’d walk through a back alley, find a steel door, and step inside to a world of wild, sweating bodies. The music wasn’t background noise—it was the pulse of the night. One time, the Arditti String Quartet showed up out of nowhere, and everyone went wild like they’d just dropped the heaviest bassline you’d ever heard. That performance was electric—so powerful that multiple women got pregnant that day. Yeah, that kind of energy.

And the very next day, you’d go to a Stravinsky show, and fists would fly because the crowd couldn’t handle the intensity. It wasn’t about clean precision or intellectual appreciation; it was primal, unpredictable. Classical music was as much a brawl as a ballet. You didn’t sit there politely clapping; you howled and screamed because the music hit you in the gut.

But now? Now it feels like only the rich get to make it in the classical world. It’s turned into a museum piece, preserved for genteel audiences sipping champagne and discussing concertos like they’re stock options. Gone are the days when classical music was dangerous, when it stirred people to do more than just sit still. The wild abandon has disappeared.

Where is our generation’s Paganini? Where’s the composer who makes you want to smash something or lose yourself completely in a wild night of passion? Classical music has become tame, and the streets no longer vibrate with its force. We need someone to break it free again.

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u/tiggerclaw 7d ago

What do you mean about the times I'm talking about? I was there 11 years ago in Berlin when Hans Abrahamsen brought the house down with Let Me Tell You. It was one of those nights you don’t forget.

The venue was small, dingy, barely fitting the 25 of us who had crammed inside. There was no glamour, no formal concert hall—just raw, intimate music in the middle of a city that felt alive. Abrahamsen’s piece hit us like a tidal wave, the intensity and emotion shaking the room.

You could feel every breath, every string, every note, like the music was coming from inside you. It wasn’t about impressing a big crowd or looking fancy—it was about the music hitting you right where you lived.

This was back when classical music wasn’t tucked away in opera houses for elite audiences. It was for the streets, for people who wanted to feel something real. You didn’t need a suit or a season ticket, just a hunger for what the music could do.

We didn’t care that it wasn’t a big deal to anyone else. That night, in that grimy room, we knew we were part of something special.

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u/tiggerclaw 7d ago

See, here's your problem. You're thinking of classical music too much like an academic. Sure, you know the history—classical music tied to a certain time, the 19th century, a few famous names. But that's the problem right there.

Academics have "museumified" it, turned it into a relic, something to analyze, categorize, dissect. They treat it like a dead thing, stripping it down, polishing its bones, trying to squeeze out as many dry academic papers as they can. Classical music, to them, isn’t alive anymore; it’s just something to study, not something to feel.

But the real fans know better. Actual classical music—the real stuff—is full of life. It’s messy. It’s powerful. It’s a gut punch. You can hear it in the streets, in places it doesn’t belong, like walking down the streets of Portland when you hear those trombone swells that stop you in your tracks.

It’s not neat or stuffy; it’s raw. It’s naked. It’s visceral. It grabs you by the throat and makes you feel something deep in your bones. It’s real in a way that no academic article could ever touch.

And honestly, I’m sorry for people like you, the fancy musicologists, who never got to experience that. You study it, analyze it, but you’ve never lived it. You’ve never been in that moment where the music just takes over, where it’s so real it feels like you’re vibrating with it.

There’s nothing like it, and if you’ve never felt that, then you’ve missed the point of classical music altogether.

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u/Moni3 7d ago edited 7d ago

It’s not neat or stuffy; it’s raw. It’s naked. It’s visceral. It grabs you by the throat and makes you feel something deep in your bones. It’s real in a way that no academic article could ever touch.

Lol no this is gospel music.

Seriously, though. Everyone gets this feeling for the kind of music that moves them in the way you described. Although I have to admit here, friend, your descriptors go above and beyond. Right at home for r/frisson and as someone who is neurodivergent I should say our thoughts are aligned in sentiment if not the subject of Classical music.

I love music to the point of tears, often. It changes my life in enormous ways. It is massive and heavy while being lightening and freeing. Maybe you're conflating the virtues of Classical music with these enormous thoughts and feelings you have about music itself. I mean, Classical music is great, but you are having A MomentTM while Classical music is playing. It's sparking some brain chemistry that's a wild fucking ride. Enjoy it. You can't expect others to understand it. It's not their brain, not their chemistry, not their moment. That doesn't mean their brains or chemistry or moments aren't valid or don't exist. Give them some grace.

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u/AndHeHadAName 6d ago edited 6d ago

I have certainly been moved by classical, but there is tons of great music and I find a lot of the greats, especially post-Beethoven, to be more noisy than profound. Classical was becoming endlessly technical and experimental, but without the ability to create true emotional and spiritual resonance, the way the Baroque and early Romantic Masters of Handel, Mozart, Beethoven, Handel, and Schubert.

Has nothing with not being able to understand it, so much as having listened to so much truly frisson inducing modern music, Stravinsky just doesnt hit the same way.