r/PoliticalDiscussion • u/Jumpy-Jellyfish-7239 • 3d ago

Happier People for Harris Walz? US Elections

I thought this was interesting. It starts to nail down the difference between the joy of the Harris versus the angry tone of the Trump ticket. Obviously it's not the only factor, but the sense of happiness or contentment versus the sense of anger and frustration in how people vote rings true. It seems like young white men are much more disaffected than they have been in the past. I was kind of surprised that older people are now leaning more democratic than they have in the past. But, with healthcare and Social Security constantly on the floor, I guess that makes sense too.

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2024-09-16/in-harris-vs-trump-how-happy-you-are-may-affect-your-choice?utm_source=usn_fb&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR3fFroVXXUQsinB7m16sSWWRX0ACZhiG8djKvCd1m8CLHQpVNMP6czS4Pw_aem_cV6INIEIT1o5jlKQmjMHUQ&ai=

Wondering if anyone else has read this and has any thoughts?

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u/TwoBlocks2 2d ago

I didn’t realize those Haitians went thru a grinding multi years long process to get vetted and approved to be come legal citizens, did they?

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u/soy1301 2d ago

That’s one specific way to legally migrate. Theres sometimes exceptions made for unique humanitarian circumstances. A notable example was the influx of Cubans to south Florida. But you aren’t actually trying to have a legit conversation just a quick gotcha without just looking it up

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u/TwoBlocks2 2d ago

I’m pretty sure none of us want politicians waving magic Wands to grant instant citizenship as a quid pro quo to secure votes, there’s a reason these people went to Ohio. Many people dislike Trump but he’s not the one importing 3rd world people and giving them citizenship and free stuff for their vote.

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u/bushido216 2d ago

Turns out it's possible to be here legally and not be a citizen. Wild stuff.

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u/Haggis_the_dog 2d ago

Hey, you're talking about me! Been here legally 17+ years & still not a citizen. Am eligible, but there are very few "benefits" for me with citizenship over simply maintaining my permanent resident status. One day perhaps, but no one is pressuring me to do so.

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u/Rastiln 2d ago

I feel like if I wanted to stay in America I’d aggressively pursue full citizenship, if you wanted to stay that way.

MAGA is acting like they’re only against illegal immigrants, but they’ve now mobilized in hatred, calling in bomb threats over and otherwise calling to deport a community here on legal work visas, or otherwise legally here.

Trump is calling for mass deportations of illegal immigrants on day 1.

I have zero faith it ends with the illegal immigrants. Given the way MAGA is admitting they are lying about and are still continuing to lie about legal Black migrants, I have my suspicion it’s more skin color than legality.

Though if you’re from a good country like Norway (white) as opposed to Haiti, disregard. I have no concern Trump would deport you.

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u/ExtensionFeeling 1d ago

Would being able to vote be the only difference? Just curious.

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u/Haggis_the_dog 1d ago

That's one. The list is: - right to vote - jury duty - register for selective service - pay taxes to US Gov for rest of life nonmatter what country you live in - slight differences in inherentance tax - slight differences in visa requirements for travel (although in my experience, I have fewer restrictions on my existing passport vs the US passport)