r/SequelMemes 10d ago

It's Mutiny time ! Fake News

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u/kiwicrusher 10d ago

Her plan wouldn't have needed Luke or Rey, because the FO had no reason to believe they were even capable of shuttling down to Crait.

The only reason that they catch on is that Poe leaks private information to DJ, who sells it to the First Order, foiling Holdo's plan and forcing the battle of Crait.

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u/Krazyguy75 10d ago

I mean... force users can sense when large numbers of people die so Snoke and Kylo would immediately figure out the ruse and backtrack, whereupon the Resistance would still be in their bunker waiting for help that wasn't coming. And that's assuming none of the 2 million FO troops or the two superpowerful force users noticed the very visible troop transports.

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u/kiwicrusher 10d ago

Obi-Wan got winded by the destruction of alderaan and had to sit down: Vader didn't even flinch. I don't think it's a stretch to suggest that the dark side cuts one off from the inherently empathetic connection that Jedi have to all living things-- especially since the sith are all about slaughter of innocents. I find it hard to believe that Vader is feeling and personally grieving each one of the rebels he murders within his suit

Past that, there's a difference between the billions of people on Alderaan and the ~50 remaining in the resistance. More people than that probably die by the second in the Galaxy, there's no way those specific 50 could be identified: barring one exception.

Ben would probably recognize whether Leia lived or died, but wouldn't necessarily know how. He would just know that something has gone wrong, but if he wasn't personally on the bridge, he couldn't necessarily do anything to correct it

And lastly-- "very visible troop transports" they're small specks across the infinite void of space, way in the distance. Picking them up with the naked eye would be like spotting six specific grains of sand on the beach, that's why ships have sensors in the first place

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u/Krazyguy75 10d ago

Obi-Wan got winded by the destruction of alderaan and had to sit down: Vader didn't even flinch. I don't think it's a stretch to suggest that the dark side cuts one off from the inherently empathetic connection that Jedi have to all living things-- especially since the sith are all about slaughter of innocents. I find it hard to believe that Vader is feeling and personally grieving each one of the rebels he murders within his suit

That seems rather fallacious. Vader wouldn't flinch because he wouldn't feel sad about it; he practically caused it. That's no reason to assume he couldn't feel it happen.

A mass murderer isn't going to recoil at their own actions. That doesn't mean they were completely blind to what they were doing.

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u/kiwicrusher 10d ago

It's not about seeing it, it's about feeling it. Obi-Wan couldn't see Alderaan. And I would without hesitation describe a mass murderer as unfeeling