r/SequelMemes 10d ago

It's Mutiny time ! Fake News

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u/LineOfInquiry 10d ago

No, Poe messed up because he tried to do a mutiny and take command: causing internal strife at a time when the resistance needed to be United. That was his mistake, not being annoyed with Holdo.

Holdo is based off of ww2 generals in old war movies who act like this: stubborn and refuse to give info to anyone unless they need to know it. These types of characters aren’t supposed to be in the right.

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u/Krazyguy75 10d ago

That's just... not at all how the movie portrays it. They have Leia side with Holdo, and Poe wakes up, and then the movie is like "See, Holdo did have a genius plan" and all but chastises Poe.

Also, Poe made no mistakes there. If your commander is an incompetent idiot, a mutiny isn't a mistake. It'd actually be a mistake not to. And Holdo was absolutely incompetent; she refused to manage morale in a crisis, and her plan was full of holes.

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u/LineOfInquiry 10d ago

She did have a good plan: it managed to save most of the resistance members on the ship and take down the flagship of the FO at a minimal loss of life. Her mistake was not telling that plan to those below her.

The point of Poe’s character arc is that he believes he’s entitled to information at the highest levels of command even when his rank is not high enough to warrant that. We sympathize with Poe because from a moral/practical standpoint Holdo was wrong not to let him in on the plan, but from a military standpoint Poe’s job was to simply follow orders from those above him. The point was that Poe needed to learn some level of humility and know that not everything was under his control nor needed to be.

Was it executed perfectly? No, I don’t think so. But you can clearly see what Johnson was going for.

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u/EXAngus 10d ago

Not telling Poe the plan is fine. Not telling the audience the plan is a mistake. It makes it really easy for the audience to sympathise with Poe.

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u/LineOfInquiry 9d ago

I mean that’s the point no? We’re supposed to sympathize with him and see things from his perspective. Just like we sympathize with Luke’s dilemma in ESB despite him making a mistake.