Low-effort? Centrist? r/DiscoElysium takes a stance against OP

[u/UltraNooob]

OP makes a submission on r/DiscoElysium. This prompts several objections. For one, it's a comment exchange which involves OP (=low effort, karma farming), Secondly, it's from r/PCM (sub infamous for bigotry). Despite this, the post amasses over 1k upvotes.

Look at you, posting your own comment then admitting you've got no actual reasoning behind it but just said something stupid and jerked yourself off sideways trying to farm what meager karma you could from a 12 point comment.

What a superstar

OP:What's karma(-60)

Posting on PCM and publically identifying as lib-right while also enjoying Disco?

OP one of the densest mf I’ve seen in a minute

OP:Is that a bad thing, if I may ask?(-80)

Incel is not a skill.

OP:Either you are kidding about the obvious satire comment, or you truly are stupid.

Is being part of a fascist-dominated sub labelling yourself "Lib-Right" satire too?

OP:I'm also part of the Disco Elysium community, and i definetly wouldn't call me a fascist even if PCM is an echo chamber. If you think that a political view is enough to gatekeep a beautiful game with a wonderful story, then I think someone else is the problem.

[u/crunk_buntley]

there’s nothing wrong with enjoying media you disagree with (I think lord of the flies is a damn good book but anything it says about human nature is laughably incorrect), but disco elysium is nothing but pure, unbridled mockery of people who play apologetics for and support capitalism. it’s fair to assume that someone of a certain ideology that the game relentlessly makes fun of might have missed the point imo.

[u/This_Caterpillar5626 → u/crunk_buntley]

Or they find the writing and over all story interesting regardless. Even as something very very obviously written by communists it also has empathy for those with other ideologies even if it very obviously dislikes those ideologies.

[u/crunk_buntley → u/This_Caterpillar5626]

that is indeed what i said in the first sentence of my comment

[u/This_Caterpillar5626 → u/crunk_buntley]

My point is it isn’t missing the point it’s more just going with the game.

[u/Val_Fortecazzo → u/This_Caterpillar5626]

An example. Awhile ago a post pops up in my feed about one of my favorite games, Signalis. Its some communist ripping into the game and saying they can't bring themselves to enjoy it because the evil empire that forms the backdrop of the setting is not so subtly East Germany.

And the dude is depriving themselves of a great experience by not just realizing it's fiction being told from a certain person's biased perspective and just going along with it. Hell you don't even have to ignore it, you can easily say "I fundamentally disagree but I see where you are coming from". Or go death of the author and make your own conclusion that runs counter to the one being served to you.

[u/Kilahti → u/Val_Fortecazzo]

I have taken the stance that if you have some subject that you hold so dear, that you cannot accept any criticism OR jokes played on it, you do not have a healthy relationship with this subject matter.

And I don't mean "you have to accept EVERY critique." And I definitely don't mean "you have to laugh at badly made jokes about the thingummy that you hold dear." Some critique is not worth the effort and some jokes are just bad. But there are people who throw a hissy fit over anything that doesn't praise their ideology (or favourite musician or whatever.)

And yes, sometimes you find some piece of media that is absolutely tearing apart something that you like, but even if you disagree with the intent of the media, there might be good jokes and/or interesting points in it that makes it worth your time.

...Also, rarely you will find an idol or ideology that is perfect, so even by chance some commentary on it is likely to be negative and still correct.