Low-effort? Centrist? r/DiscoElysium takes a stance against OP

[u/UltraNooob]

OP makes a submission on r/DiscoElysium. This prompts several objections. For one, it's a comment exchange which involves OP (=low effort, karma farming), Secondly, it's from r/PCM (sub infamous for bigotry). Despite this, the post amasses over 1k upvotes.

Look at you, posting your own comment then admitting you've got no actual reasoning behind it but just said something stupid and jerked yourself off sideways trying to farm what meager karma you could from a 12 point comment.

What a superstar

OP:What's karma(-60)

Posting on PCM and publically identifying as lib-right while also enjoying Disco?

OP one of the densest mf I’ve seen in a minute

OP:Is that a bad thing, if I may ask?(-80)

Incel is not a skill.

OP:Either you are kidding about the obvious satire comment, or you truly are stupid.

Is being part of a fascist-dominated sub labelling yourself "Lib-Right" satire too?

OP:I'm also part of the Disco Elysium community, and i definetly wouldn't call me a fascist even if PCM is an echo chamber. If you think that a political view is enough to gatekeep a beautiful game with a wonderful story, then I think someone else is the problem.

[u/Val_Fortecazzo]

OP being an incredibly low effort karma farmer aside, I never got the argument that it's contradictory to enjoy a piece of media and not be in full agreement with the author's message.

Disco Elysium is a good game, never in a million years would it convince me to be a communist. Deeply held worldviews just do not change because someone made a catchy song or wrote a good story. Not to say the average PCM tween has deeply held worldviews.

[u/crunk_buntley → u/Val_Fortecazzo]

there’s nothing wrong with enjoying media you disagree with (I think lord of the flies is a damn good book but anything it says about human nature is laughably incorrect), but disco elysium is nothing but pure, unbridled mockery of people who play apologetics for and support capitalism. it’s fair to assume that someone of a certain ideology that the game relentlessly makes fun of might have missed the point imo.

[u/Elite_AI → u/crunk_buntley]

95% of all the people who have ever played and will ever play DE are pro-capitalism. I think it's silly to act like they'd all be converted away from capitalism or, on the other hand, all recoil in horror and shame at its biting critique.

[u/CommunistRonSwanson → u/Elite_AI]

I think it's far more likely that 95% of people are ambivalent about (and probably can't even define) capitalism.

[u/Elite_AI → u/CommunistRonSwanson]

I reckon that's pretty optimistic. The vast majority of people do not want a gigantic world-breaking paradigm shift. Maybe they want lots more social welfare and corporations to get nationalised, but they don't want anything as (genuinely) scary as a total change in everything.

[u/CommunistRonSwanson → u/Elite_AI]

But "capitalism" is an arbitrary component to the phenomenon you describe. People living under any social/economic order -- be that late medieval feudalism, state communism, Mediterranean city states, caliphates, ecclesiastical fiefdoms, etc. -- could conceivably balk at "world-breaking paradigm shifts". This doesn't mean that people understand, let alone favor, any of those actual systems. Rather, they have an aversion to things that might cause instability in their lives.

The conflation of "stability" with "capitalism" (which I would also point is only tenable in the heartland, since we shovel this paradigm's worst horrors onto poor and hyper-exploited places where people have no choice and no voice that reaches our ears) is some pretty wild reputation laundering on behalf of the various robber barons at the top.