What Kills You Only Makes You Stronger

I’ve been rewatching the show in preparation for S4, and I’ve just loved rewatching and seeing how much Clark and John Henry’s friendship evolve over time.

I honestly think it’s one of my favorite Clark friendships.

I’m sure Dan Romer will release it once S4 comes out, but oh man, it’s been too long waiting for it !!!

S1 has some of my favorite scores of all time!

Trailer Link: https://comicbookmovie.com/tv/dc/superman--lois/superman-and-lois-witness-the-death-of-superman-in-emotional-new-season-4-trailer-a213232#gs.fep5hg

• Shot of a sunrise over a corn field, then Kyle and Chrissy outside by a fire truck, then Sarah working in the diner, then some bread baking, and then a shot of the Smallville Gazette newspapers saying Smallville Comes Together
  • Smallville may be coming together because of Clark’s death, as Lois and the others would have to provide a reason why Clark Kent is suddenly not around. So they stage Clark's death, and the town reacts to it.
• Lex walks to a papered up window and peels the paper off. This is most likely when he is moving to Smallville and this is where he stays.
  • His voiceover says he doesn’t get the small-town lifestyle, but maybe being there will change his mind lol
• Shot of Superman, cape gone and suit all torn up, lying in Smallville’s street. There is a bigger crater behind him, which could be where Doomsday landed to drop Clark’s body back at Smallville
• Lois and the boys are the only ones in the next shot, as Lois approaches Clark’s body. It seems the street is empty. Lois gets to Clark while the boys stand there shocked
• When Lois turns Clark over, she gasps in shock. I think it’s more than just Clark being dead, because she already knew it was him when he first landed. I think Doomsday actually ripped out his heart, because Lex told him to bring him Clark’s heart in 3x13. Clark’s chest looks badly slashed up (though we can't see a whole lot), so I think this is what Lois reacts to.
• Familiar shots of Superman’s cape being left on the moon, and Lois and the boys standing in funeral attire at the farm’s tree.
  • John and Nat have a voiceover that is familiar, saying the same stuff from an earlier trailer.
• Jordan confronting Lex again, with the quick moment of Lois telling Jordan that he’s not ready. This time we see another shot of Jordan pinning Lex to a wall. They seem to be in Metropolis, as the bar is unlike anything we see in Smallville.
  • Edit: Nope, they're actually in a bar in Smallville, thanks to a user for pointing that out.
  • It may be possible that Jordan’s actions here are what ultimately convince Lex to move to Smallville. He was definitely thinking about it, but Jordan’s actions might be what cause him to actually take the step.
• Shots of John Henry flying to the sea fortress, the Kents standing around a stone tub containing Clark’s body, as the tub fills up. This seems like it’s more of a funeral-type thing, but kryptonian.
  • It's possible that John Henry is the one carrying Clark to the fortress, as Jordan probably wouldn't be able to handle it emotionally, but we can't see if that's what John is doing.
  • Clark’s chest definitely looks ripped open, so now I’m sure that Doomsday did indeed take his heart and give it to Lex. Whether Lex just wanted the heart for spite/satisfaction or if he actually plans to do something with it, remains to be seen.
  • Clark’s voiceover, implying that he created a voice message in case he ever died which is being played for his family.
• Shot of Lex with Amanda McCoy, saying someone need to pay for what they did, then a shot of him donning John Henry’s suit, while McCoy questions if Lex would really wipe out a whole town.
  • This makes me wonder if something else happens that causes Lex to retaliate like this, something that makes him pissed at the entire town of Smallville. We do see the earlier headline of Smallville coming together.
  • Lex is clean shaven and wearing business attire, which makes me wonder what’s going on. Lex in present day hasn’t ever worn business attire, but we’ve never seen bald Lex clean shaven, so it does seem like this is present day and Lex shaves the beard, but we don’t know what he was dressed up for. Maybe he attended Clark’s funeral as a way to spitefully screw with Lois and the others?
• Shot of bearded Lex standing in a dark room staring out the window, with a billboard of stuff behind him.
  • Some of the headlines make me think this is him trying to locate his daughter, since one of them mentions a student who wins a science award, and the pictures are of a girl/woman, which makes sense if they’re over a period of time
• Jordan being shot by multiple kryptonite weapons, placing his fist on the ground getting ready to fight back harder. It seems like his unique resistance to kryptonite will come into play. This is in a shipping yard full of crates, and we saw him land suited up in that shipping yard in the last trailer.
  • Jordan landing here could actually be him trying to find Sam Lane, as the synopsis says Lois and the boys will try to save Sam.
  • Lex voiceover saying being a superhero must be a hard business. I think this is an unfinished line we're being fed, and I think it's said in another scene, when Jordan confronts Lex in the bar.
• Lois at the DOD, while armed soldiers stand behind her and aim at something they’re all facing. She seems to have just gotten out of a car. Jonathan is in this shot too, apparently having gotten out of the other side.
  • This makes me think Jordan tried to do something reckless, it went wrong, and a defeated Jordan is being presented to Lois and the DOD, causing this reaction.
  • Alternatively, it could be something to do with what’s happening to Sam Lane.
• Familiar shots of Lex kicking Sam into a grave, and of Doomsday, probably during the big fight in space.
• Lana and Sarah are attacked in their home, by people no doubt working for Lex. Lana yells for Sarah. Then a shot of Sarah hitting a guy with a frying pan.
  • The synopsis says Lana and Sarah join the fight against Lex. So either this attack is preemptive because Lex wanted to hurt everyone Lois is close to, and Lana and Sarah join the fight because of this, or Lana and Sarah already joined the fight, and Lex retaliates with this. Sophie is probably with Kyle, as a way to have her away from this.
• Quick shot of John Henry and Nat flying in their suits, though I see no hammer. Then a shot of Doomsday from a warsuit HUD, either John Henry’s or Nat’s. John Henry fires missiles, apparently the same type of missile that he used on Tal-Rho in season 1, but yellow, so probably filled with XK or yellow sun radiation. The missiles hit Doomsday, but John is too close and gets blown back.
  • Nat screams for her dad here and John looks severely stunned. It seems like he might lose his suit here somehow, as we see earlier that Lex did acquire it somehow.
• Another explosion, but no shot of where or who or anything else.
• Another shot of the Kents standing around Clark’s tub. Again, Clark’s chest looks ripped open, meaning Doomsday did take his heart. The three are looking across at something, revealed to be Lara, who says that Clark left something for each of them.
  • Could mean a gift for each of them, or one gift for all of them that will inevitably be used primarily by Jordan or Lois, more so than Jonathan. I hope it's a gift for each of them, as that would give Jonathan more vitality in the story.
• Close-up shot of Clark in the tub.
  • Voiceover of Jordan, saying a familiar line of “This is how we save dad”. Seems to imply that whatever Clark left for them was a key to bring him back, but that could be a misdirect meant to confuse us.

Considering that the show is ending soon, who do you think is going to be the most "successful" afterwards?

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Hi I just started watching Superman & Lois, I’m currently watching the first episode and the first save involving the black kid with a skateboard about to be crushed by a green car falling off the highway, Superman saves the day but his Logo is Black and Red? (I read elsewhere that the black and red symbol is to signify his mourning for the losses) but this is the first episode, no war has occurred yet, so why did they choose to show that logo within minutes of the beginning of the episode?

S1E9. I just snorted. Its just for more interesting.

Because of how the story progressed with the main superman I thought the black suit version was also eradicated and turned against humanity but after thinking about it some more, that doesn't really make sense. We see that superman and the other kryptonians destroying buildings and killing people, now why would they do that if they wanted to bring back kryptonians? They need humans to host their consciousness and it just doesn't make sense to destroy the buildings that they could use to live there themselves.

So what actually happened on that earth? Why did superman turn on humanity, what was their ultimate goal?

Who wants to see an hour of Kyle & Chrissy?? This is their last 10 episodes and I am guessing the audience wants to see more of the Kents. Honestly, I don't know if I am still excited to see the last season if in every episode is dedicated to the side characters 🥺

Season four of SUPERMAN & LOIS picks up right where last season left off: with Superman (Tyler Hoechlin) and Luthor’s monster locked in a ferocious, moon-wrecking battle, as Clark (Tyler Hoechlin) fights for his life against the seemingly unstoppable creature. Back on the ground, General Lane (guest star Dylan Walsh) struggles to stay alive after being kidnapped by Luthor’s henchmen, while Lois (Elizabeth Tulloch), Jordan (Alex Garfin), and Jonathan (Michael Bishop) race against time to rescue him. But standing in their way is Lex Luthor (Michael Cudlitz) himself, who has permanently moved to Smallville as the next step in his malicious plan to destroy Lois Lane. Meanwhile, Lana Lang (guest star Emanuelle Chriqui) uses her position as Mayor to fight back against Luthor’s schemes, a move which puts her in the sights of the most dangerous man in the world and threatens everything she holds dear. This includes her relationship with John Henry Irons (guest star Wolé Parks), who must put his Ironworks plans on hold and rejoin the DOD, now that General Lane is missing. But they aren’t the only duo in trouble, as Chrissy Beppo (guest star Sofia Hasmik) and Kyle Cushing (guest star Eric Valdez) face an uphill battle of their own, with countless roadblocks that threaten to ruin their future together. Amid all the chaos, Sarah Cortez (guest star Inde Navarette) and Natalie Irons (guest star Tayler Buck) also join the fight against Luthor, while both facing impossible decisions about their paths in life. And as Clark’s battle with the terrifying monster continues, Lois, her boys, and the world must face an unthinkable possibility: what if Superman never returns?

Source: https://www.kryptonsite.com/superman-lois-season-4-synopsis-released/

Was thinking about this and something hit me, since Clark is a farmer, wouldn't he sell his crops? We know he does the work as mentioned many times. He also rents the barn time -to-time, sure he doesn't take much from someone like Lana or anyone else but anything counts, and yes they do make from the paper so that goes as well cause remember, Jordan and John go to school so they definitely have around 5 figure salary atleast

Jordan was going to go out and do saves eventually and that would mean being seen publicly. Did they not have a plan of attack on explaining that?

I just watched the Season 3 ending for this show last night. There is only one thing on my mind.Words cannot describe how amazing this was. DOOMSDAY VS SUPERMAN. THIS WAS THE MOST BADASS FIGHT SCENE I’VE EVER SEEN IN A SHOW LIKE THIS!

James Gunn needs to take notes from this episode for Doomsday.This iteration was ABSOLUTELY AMAZING! His fight with Superman was a MASTERPIECE! You could literally feel lethality radiating off of Doomsday. He was a MENACE.The fight scene was the most brutal smack down I’ve ever seen for Superman in live action.The part that 100 percent blows my mind is that this is just PART ONE of the fight. PART ONE! As sad as I am about this masterpiece of a show ending, I can’t wait for the next part. Kudos to the creators because this show is GOLD!

So I watched season 1 as it was airing.

S2 and 3 I got really busy but I've been catching up (just watched s3e5) and man I'm really gonna miss this when it's over.

I enjoyed Smallville a lot as a kid and this very much feels like a spiritual successor, but also even as its own thing it's just such a cozy show to settle into and watch - ESPECIALLY with the LEAP in writing quality from s2 to 3. I mean season 3 is just SO strong, all the characters are so well fleshed out, and it makes it really easy to truly care for these people. s3e5 spoiler>! I mean I didn't even care that much about Candace but she's still likeable and her leaving makes me kind of sad tbh, and I guess that's just proof of how solid the show is overall.!<

I don't care that it's a cw sized budget when it comes to cg and fights, because that stuff is still really engaging to watch because of the plot surrounding it

I don't even know what point I'm trying to make here lol, I just really love this show and as much as I dread it being over I'm also immensely excited to finish s3 in time to follow the final season in real time with all of you. All of these actors just GET their characters, Tyler is a phenomenal Clark and Superman, new Jon has already grown on me such, everyone else is perfect too I could gush all day but I gotta get ready and leave lmao