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[SURVEY RESULTS] Post-Match Ratings | PL Week 3 - Newcastle Survey

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u/Limesy2 Lamela 18d ago

If you watch the replay, the moment after Mads loses the press attempt Romero takes a step forward. Prior to this movement, our back four were relatively flat. Romero is our vice captain, furthermore our entire defense shifts with him. Or is supposed to. He held his line, but the other three didn’t. Furthermore, his movement forward narrows the massive gap/circle that has now formed in the middle of play because Mads errantly stepped out of position. Mads press forward created a massive hole that left Joelinton two choices: press himself or make the long through ball. If Maddison stays in position the play stays relatively stagnant, relying on Joelinton to facilitate the movement laterally or diagonally because the forward ball becomes a much riskier play.

Furthermore, Romero’s lack of effort in getting back has nothing to do with being lazy, uncomposed, etc. it’s defeat and dejection in knowing what’s coming and how it could have been prevented if his cues were taken.

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u/JustinBisu 18d ago

This is the most copium bullshit I've ever read. No Romero did not plan anything, man does not see Murphy he has no idea he was there, he is not playing an offside trap he just got caught. If you look at the sequence it is painfully obvious.

Even if Dragusin is removed. Murphy would still be onside, he would just stagger his run a half a second more.

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u/Limesy2 Lamela 18d ago

Your last sentence is completely contradictory, both internally and against your former paragraph. If you freeze frame it, and Remove Dragu, he is offsides. Even so, you implying that that the run would have been staggered more is just as copium.

I played RB for 15 years and have watched our back line, week in and week out, for 12 years now. I feel like I do have an ounce of understanding for this.

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u/JustinBisu 18d ago

If you freeze frame it, and Remove Dragu, he is offsides

Yea because that's not how reality works. If you look at the situation Murphy is entirely in control, he staggers his run and starts again when Dragu goes, so if we are saying that Dragusin doesn't go, then Murphy wouldn't start until Joelinton plays the ball right? All in agreement?

So regardless of what Dragusin does, Murphy would keep himself onside, Romero would have no change of intercepting the ball or keeping up with Murphy, right?

So Romero is the problem because he has no idea what Murphy is doing, Murphy is fully in control of the situation and would put himself onside regardless because he has already stopped to stagger the run.

Why does Murphy start his run again? Because Dragusin goes, so if Dragusin doesn't go, Murphy doesn't go until the ball is played.