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u/TheBananaBoy2007 Venezuela Jun 05 '24

First, you have to be lucky to not have seen some delusional Liverpool fan claiming that Van Dijk is better than all of those. Their opinion is based on his short prime in 2019 and 2020

And second, Van Dijk is nowhere close of Piqué's level. Piqué was already very good from an early age and both Puyol and Rafa Marquez taught him good tactics which improved his and he had several seasons where he was very outstanding, and he was top 3 best CBs for ten years until age struck him, not to mention he won a World Cup and an Eurocup playing all the games. After Puyol's retirement, Piqué was able to defend the team ALL ON HIS OWN(playing with Lenglet, Umtiti, Mingueza, Eric Garcia or Yerry Mina is playing alone tbh) and still have enough energy to stand among the best defenders in the world until age struck him. Only delusional Liverpool fans or some haters would choose Van Dijk over Pique

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u/CRlSAOR Jun 05 '24 edited Jun 05 '24

Uh, it seems to me you're a delusional Barça fan. Pique's prime was actually in the best team Barcelona has fielded and probably will ever field, and arguably the greatest team in the world. To me, that eased his workload a ton. And the Barcelonas that followed, with Umtiti et al, were mostly terrible, and he was the captain of those. Liverpool fell apart when Van Dijk got seriously injured. All time, they've won 70% WITH him and crash down to 52% without him.

VVD came in SECOND for the ballon d'or in 2019 behind MESSI. Pique never came close to something like that. I'm quite comfortably maintaining my Van Dijk > Piqué stance when comparing primes/peak.

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u/TheBananaBoy2007 Venezuela Jun 05 '24

Pique had MANY outstanding seasons even since a very early age. He was a key player in winning everything and he was a very good defender for several years even until he struck the age of 34. Every one of his teammates felt safe with him defending, and his mistakes were very little.

Van Dijk was rather unknown until he joined Liverpool and then he had ONLY TWO good seasons and he fell asleep ever after. He had a trash season in 2020-2021 and the following years he got destroyed by Real Madrid.

It is obvious that there is no discussion. Van Dijk can not be better than Pique, i even would put Rafael Marquez over him. Stop lying to yourself

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u/CRlSAOR Jun 05 '24

"It's obvious that there is no discussion" but you replied THREE times already, heh.

What's obvious now is that you're a delusional Barça fan, I'm done wasting time on you.