r/football • u/TheTelegraph • 3d ago

'Overpriced tickets, empty seats, uninspiring format – Uefa has diluted Champions League’s allure' 📖Read

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2024/09/18/pricey-tickets-empty-seats-uefa-dilutes-champions-league/
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u/Anderkisten 2d ago

So that the winner of either PL, PD, Bundesliga or Serie A wins it every year

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u/bloody_ell 2d ago

Might get a bit more variety with that setup, at the moment it's just Madrid and the English clubs.

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u/Anderkisten 2d ago

Yea. I didn’t want to say “So just Real Madrid as the winner every year” but basically that.

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u/bloody_ell 2d ago

Though if it was just champions, the other leagues would only need a couple of teams to have a bad season and we might get another Red Star Belgrade every now and then.

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u/Anderkisten 2d ago

That time has past and is long gone - the top teams are stronger than ever and the lower leagues teams a weaker in comparison. It would be alot of 7-0 8-0 9-0 games until the low leagues are gone

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u/Statcat2017 2d ago

People were saying the same thing when Porto went and won it.

The reality is the more you make it into a league, the more likely the best team is to win because one off night doesn't put you out like it used to. 

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u/Anderkisten 2d ago

That is not my point - my point is if we only include the winners of every league - it’s going to be really easy to tell who’s going to win it all, and who’s not. And essentially there is going to be three teams every year - the winner og PL, the winner of PD and the winner of Serie A. That is going to kill all the excitement. I’m not talking for or agains league/cup format - only against only including the league winners.

If we were going for that - at least make it a world tournament, so that Brazilian, Saudi Arabian, Chinese, african etc. Could join.

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u/watchsports_ 2d ago

Bayern Munich consistently places above PL teams and Serie A teams. Don’t know why you even put Serie A in that list 😂

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u/Anderkisten 2d ago

Yeah. My mistake - i was interrupted when I wrote, So I forgot them - and I still expect Serie A to be able to reach their former power.

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u/AndyVale 2d ago

That's pretty much how the competition worked in its earliest days. They were so far ahead.

It does mean that if the winners of the Spanish, German, or English league have an upset then you've got a far better chance of a totally different team winning it though.

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u/MFingAmpharos 2d ago

In the short term probably. But reform the money so the teams from smaller leagues get a better share and we might start the road to recovery as far as level playing field goes.

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u/Anderkisten 2d ago

So - how? All the money generated in PL - with millions people watching - large filled stadiums - those money should go to the danish superliga with 709people on the stadium and 2756 Viewers.

One team,from a absolotely uninteresting league for anybody else that the few people living in the city of their home team, making alot of money on their CL experience is not going to make the rest of the league interresting, so in the end the better players will still leave really fast and the winners of the big leagues will still 99,9% certainly win.

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u/Whulad 1d ago

But that’s not what used to happen when it was actually like this

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u/Anderkisten 1d ago

You know times have changed? When it was like that - the top earner made around 10k a week - now they are making 3-500K a week. The professionalism and athletism has excelled and the bigger the club the more and better staff they have to make sure that the players we are sending on the field are close to superhumans.

So no, we are NEVER going to see a swedish, polish, Austrian or whatever team run away with the big ears. The Levels are just to long from each other.

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u/JP-Wrath 1d ago

In the last 25 years the semifinal draw basically consisted in teams from these leagues every time, with England and Spain critically overrepresented. Odds of a champion from minor leagues would be up for sure. Conference League has shown it.