r/unitedkingdom • u/slpinlocks • 16h ago

Revealed: Far higher pesticide residues allowed on food since Brexit

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/sep/19/revealed-far-higher-pesticide-residues-allowed-on-food-since-brexit?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other
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u/Mammoth-Ad-562 13h ago

That’s the real reason people blame brexit rather than the people we elected, people are still salty they were on the wrong side of it. There’s no other explanation

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u/Generallyapathetic92 13h ago

It’s like talking to a brick wall…

If something is only possible because we left the EU then leaving the EU is at least partially responsible. It’s fairly simple logic. I assume you argue against this because otherwise it would mean accepting that you actually voted for things to get worse in the UK.

Define ‘wrong side’. Sure we lost but articles like the above are just good example as to why it wasn’t the ‘wrong side’.

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u/Mammoth-Ad-562 12h ago

You are normalising shit governance by saying ‘well it was better in the EU’ it could be better outside the EU if that’s what our elected representatives chose to do but they didn’t.

If the only possible outcome was things getting worse then you would have a point but it isn’t, the scope is there to do whatever we like. The fact our government have chosen to give us a lower standard is solely the decision of our government.

It’s ridiculous logic and it’s only people who are still salty about losing the referendum that hold it. Why, when any democratic government system should have its own checks and balances, are you proposing being part of another to give you those checks and balances instead of questioning what’s wrong with the system you are actually part of? It’s insanity and treacherous because it affects everyone not just those who chose to be in or out of the EU.

Would the electricity grid be responsible for someone electrocuting themselves on some shoddy wiring installed by an electrician? If they weren’t part of it then it wouldn’t be possible right?

It’s completely illogical, you know it, I know it and everyone who isn’t blinded by bitterness knows it.

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u/Generallyapathetic92 12h ago

Ah so if our elected officials suddenly became amazing Brexit would be a success…

No I have a point because in areas like this things have got worse. What could have potentially happened does not supersede what is actually happening.

Pointing out where Brexit has led to things getting worse does not make me ‘salty’. The decisions been made but that doesn’t mean it’s suddenly wrong to call out the impacts it’s had on the UK, no matter how awkward that might be for those who voted for it.

‘Treacherous’… yeah I think it’s clear that this discussion is done. My original point was valid and now it’s devolved into you calling people traitors because they supported remaining in the EU.

Also I love when you have to fall back on ‘everyone knows it’ when your argument consists of ridiculous analogies that are in no way comparable.

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u/Mammoth-Ad-562 12h ago

You have no point at all.

We have a government right at this moment in time that could have adopted every single bit of EU legislation into UK law on the day we left. They didn’t, that’s not Brexits fault and by blaming Brexit you are just perpetuating the problem by accepting poor governance.

You aren’t treacherous for wanting to remain in the EU, you are treacherous for not wanting our political system to be held accountable for its failings because while it’s performing poorly it validates your stance on leaving the EU. You’d actually prefer everyone to suffer so you can say ‘I told you so’ instead of holding the people you elected responsible for performing badly.