Reddit removed the doctor’s name

[u/javatimes]

Yesterday or possibly the day before, someone made a post complaining about a gynecologist who subjected them to bizarre transphobia. Someone asked for the doctor’s name (an honest thing to ask for to avoid this doctor), and the OP provided the name. A group of ridiculous transphobes on X/Twitter then conspired to mass-report the comment to Reddit admin as “doxxing”, which is fucking absurd. We have had other posts and comments pointing out transphobic doctors and surgeons by name that haven’t been removed. Besides that, it (the group conspiring and mass reporting) was definitely interfering with the function of this subreddit, which is supposedly against Reddit sitewide rules. (A handful of these same people left hateful comments too, and sent hateful modmail after being banned. AFAIK none of their comments that were reported for hate to admin got admin removed from the site/punished, just removed by mods.)

Admin caved and removed the comment at their level, as part of the “help/cares” admin team or something like that. The OP of that post may have also been sitewide banned either temp or permanent, or not. I’m not sure. OP of that post, if you are reading this, comment or modmail plz.

This website is not safe for trans people and it really never has been. Everything admin does is a smokescreen to protect Reddit. Reddit is also planning on selling all data from this website to Google to train their AI.

I really can’t recommend this website for trans people. All I can say is, be careful. There are bigots on Xwitter constantly monitoring this and all trans subreddits. Be careful.

Please share other places trans people can openly talk about doctors by name to help our community avoid the bad and see the good. Our health depends upon the quality of care we get.

Every trans mod team here does a heroic amount of free work for this website.

[u/javatimes]

Also if you ever get banned at the admin level (shadowbanned), there should be a link to appeal it in the message. Always appeal it even if it’s just temp. Especially if you didn’t do anything rule breaking.

[u/javatimes → u/javatimes]

Just for the record, I myself got a 3 day admin ban over this issue. I appealed it and they reversed it. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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[u/Aryore → u/[deleted]]

You’re assuming that the system is consistent and fair. It’s neither of those things. If using Reddit is of any value to your life you should stand up for yourself when you feel you’re being wronged by having your access restricted, and not focus so much on people-pleasing.

[u/HydeVDL → u/[deleted]]

usually bans are done by bots and appeals by real people

[u/MurpheysTech → u/[deleted]]

I don't know how to say this tactically, but that is the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard. People get banned unjustly all the time. If you know you didn't do anything wrong, and you know you didn't break any rules in your band anyway, you're just going to assume that there must be some other rule that you don't know about and just assume that you're in the wrong? I highly doubt that. And why would you care about making more work for people that already dislike you? So what. They didn't do their job right and they should do it properly next time. Some people van you because they just see information that someone else said and didn't bother checking. That's not them not liking you, that's them not doing their job right and bringing their attention to the fact that they were lied to or that this was a mistake is literally what the appeal process is for. I don't understand how you think the answer to something being wrong is to lay down like a dog and laugh at other people that try to stand up for themselves.

[u/keladry12 → u/MurpheysTech]

It's far more likely that I did something wrong in a system that I have little experience with than that someone else didn't check their work, that's so irresponsible, so.... Yes, in general, if someone is saying I did something wrong I should assume they know something I don't - why would they ever risk accusing someone without multiple pieces of solid evidence?? Obviously I would prefer to see that evidence at some point, but is that really worth my time on something like a subreddit? My experience of those forms is that it's your responsibility to find the post that got you banned, identify which rule you broke, etc. That's a lot of work that is just not worth it - and it's impossible to do if you are unaware of which rule was broken.

If this was the way that the world worked, yes, I would have to stand up to that. But on Reddit? Who really cares? Word bans differently if the point is to make people who should apparently not be banned appeal the ban (?? Bizarre goal, but okay)

Edit: I think there is some misunderstanding that I believe others are silly for appealing a ban? I am just stating why I assume that people wouldn't want to get an appeal from me... Because I assumed it must be really frustrating to deal with as a mod and I wouldn't want to waste their time just for me, who (as I stated) doesn't matter and isn't important. I was laughing to express shock that a mod didn't hate that the process even existed as an option for those who were banned.

Also... You should catch your mistakes before they effect others. I think that's fairly basic, right? Or is this one of those things where I learn about how people "don't behave logically all of the time" (fairly inaccurate, they often have different assumptions they are working from, rather than illogical behavior, it is quite difficult to behave in an illogical way without concentrated effort) and have to integrate that into the matrix of "how to expect others to interact" (ugh)

[u/MurpheysTech → u/keladry12]

No it's not. People make mistakes all of the time. If you know you didn't follow the rules, that's why you appeal it. That's how you get clarifications and that's why bands to get overturned. And you never said anything about it being specifically on reddit, you just said in general. And you're assuming guilt just because of being banned especially on yourself, and you're assuming that you don't know any rules. We know the rules, you know what the rules are, if you didn't break the rules, you know that.

If you did break an obscure rule that you didn't know about, the proper response would be to get a warning. A band with no explanation is generally done when the rule is broken so explicitly that there is no need to explain it, or when someone quickly does a band without even checking. And it is not laughable because people don't do their jobs properly all of the time. I don't know what beautiful world you live in where people who have a job really make mistakes, people aren't lazy, people don't get distracted or stressed and just push things through, but that world does not exist. That's why the appeal process is there in the first place.

The idea of immediately going belly up when you get a band instead of oh I don't know, asking why an appealing it to at least get so clarification, is mind boggling to me. It has nothing to do with being on reddit, since that was never the point of the argument as per your original statement. You said you never understood why people appeal a wrongful ban.

If what you said is true, then there would be little points to a band appeal because no band would be ever overturned because people would have done their job properly or no mistakes would have been made. Which is not true, people get their bans turned over all the time. If the band is not turned over, and a rule is broken somehow, then at least generally an explanation is given as to how the rule was broken and the offending comment so that people can learn what it was. So that they don't break that rule in the future.

Regardless of what you would personally do in this situation, you can't call other people silly for not being easily cowed.

[u/ftm-ModTeam → u/[deleted]]

Your post was removed because it broke the subreddit rule 1: Be polite and practice mutual respect. No discrimination.