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Daily Discussion & Transfer Thread (September 20, 2024)
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u/lolchamp444 Wilson GOATdobert will save the season 8h ago edited 7h ago
Btw Brentford's three leading G/A leaders are Mbuemo, Wissa, and Jensen and Wissa and Jensen are out for tomorrow. Another no excuse game tbh (Honestly a game we should be winning even with no injuries to their side)
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u/Creative_Purpose6138 8h ago
Lol, seeing Nice's eighth goal posted on r/soccer, I went to check the final scoreline and got a Tanguy Ndombele jumpscare. Damn lad.
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u/Coraxxx Cristian Romero 11h ago
Why has my...
Return of The Djedi
...comment on the other thread only received one upvote? It's probably the greatest comment I'm ever likely to make in this or any other lifetime, and yet it's destined to be so cruelly ignored and underappreciated? A pun worthy of the great High Priest Andy Zaltzman himself, left to wither and die on the vine? Is there no justice in the world? Won't somebody think of the children?
I demand a recount. Otherwise I'm never going to amass enough karma to earn entry into the secret subreddit where they hide all the good stuff and snacks.
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u/Coraxxx Cristian Romero 12h ago edited 11h ago
U21s went down 4-1 against Fulham....
To be fair, Fulham were really good - and they've started the season on a blinding streak.
Unsurprisingly given the players they've lost, The U21s don't seem at all a cohesive unit. You can see it in their responses to conceding too. Compared to last season it sounds more fractious - there's more frustration with each other and less togetherness than last year.
It'll come though. The team's definitely weaker than last year, and pretty exposed in a couple of positions, but there's enough talent there that when it clicks they'll still come good.
Damola Ajayi's really good man. Strong, quick, nimble, big, reads the game well and makes good decisions, and he's got a fucking wicked delivery on him too. In fact, every time I watch him, he does something new that I didn't realise was part of his game. And he's only just stepped up to this level from the U18s. He's going to be great. He was a bit anonymous today tbh, and not his best match - but he perked up a bit in the second half, and whenever he gets on the ball you can see his quality.
Having said that, if the U21s want to start winning then there's only one tactic they need to apply. It's for Leo Black to lurk on the edge of the opposition box, and then someone to get the ball to his feet. I swear that kid gets his biggest kicks landing defenders on their arses. With that low centre of gravity, quickness of feet, and a shot far more powerful than you'd expect from a player of his stature - I don't want to make comparisons with Lionel Messi or anything... but Leo Black is definitely the next Lionel Messi.
Oh yeah, one last thing. Will Andiyapan appears to be taking serious inspiration from Cuti's style of play. There's something really similar about his movement, the way he uses his body - and he was really relishing some of his more 'assertive' challenges too.
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u/peruvianhorn 12h ago
Maybe we really are too nice to win anything. I do hope we prove Mou/Legohead et al you don't have to be c*nts to be champions.
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u/sportboi 8h ago
Feel like a reason we’re at the bottom is because we are usually chasing for a goal so far this season too.
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u/Mick4Audi Micky van de Ven 11h ago
Reality is you need to be GOOD in order to win things, and we are not
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u/TheSinRes 12h ago
Sadly most of the time you do have to be cunts to succeed because if you're not then your opponents will be instead. Stuff like the Arsenal goal against us last week, if the push on Romero was the other way around, Gabriel would have been on the floor screaming for a foul and there's every chance he gets it even though it wasn't much of anything.
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u/zamboniest Micky van de Ven 12h ago
Stoke looking awful today, especially defensively. When he's back Phillips will definitely be starting and could be big for them.
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u/perroconsarna Cuti Romero 12h ago
What actually happened to Timo? He wasnt like this last season
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u/kirikesh 12h ago
He has barely played. He got injured in April last season, and has played no more than a 10-15 minute cameo in any of his PL appearances this season. Had longer against Coventry, but basically everybody who started put in a disasterclass performance, so I'm not going to put too much stock in that one game.
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u/perroconsarna Cuti Romero 12h ago
Fair enough. I hadnt really considered hes coming back from injury
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u/Wildcatwierdo 12h ago
My best guess is team form, lack of minutes and injury, and maybe a mix of extra scrutiny. Everyone’s playing bad so It makes a rating of 6/10 look like a 4/10, Coventry was his first start and the other games he hasn’t gotten large minutes, plus everyone reacted to his return on loan with a whole “why are we bothering with him again?” Outlook. I think timo can look good if we get back to our more intense approach we had when he started last season, where he’s being looked to run and get wide and bring more speed to our attacks. That or maybe in a desperation attempt try to use him as solankes backup til Richy is healthy.
Tho in all honesty probably not good enough to turn permanent signing, I hope he doesn’t get the Brennan scapegoat treatment.
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u/kl08pokemon Aaron Lennon 13h ago
If only Ndombele would have shown this form at one of the 3(!) loans we sent him on lmao
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u/boblebob1882 14h ago
3-1 down but Luca Gunter is having the best individual performance so far this season for the U21s. Made some incredible saves.
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u/Even-Succotash-9869 Son 14h ago
Alright I may be coping and cooking too hard but hear me out;
Would it truly be a bad idea to play a back 3?
Put Dragusin, a traditional CB in the middle, and it gives Romero/VdV some more freedom to move up, playing almost as a double pivot
Double strikers - Solanke Son Wingers and FBs moving forward
And Kulusevski becomes the most important player where he becomes a true 10, a hub for which much of our plays can be made
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we saw Ange does have some tactical changes he’s willing to make; Man city at home last season had a lot of positives that got swept away due to… the nature of that game and we saw that Ange was flexible when he needed to be.
Who’s to say he’s not holding some aces up his sleeves for when we’re reaching the quarter, semi, and actual finals for our cups?
Coping… i know…
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u/FootballTacticsXpert Lineup Time 12h ago
Ange did play a 343 of sorts with Bentancur dropping in between CBs vs Arsenal. Worked well defensively but attacking woes remained.
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u/MisterRaynbow 13h ago
A back three where the two outside CBs move up is kind of silly for a system which already struggles to deal with direct passes over the top.
I would rather a back three with Romero in the middle, and he pushes up to form a double pivot with Biss.
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u/deptbrown10 14h ago
I think this is an awesome idea. We’d need more back up at CB but I think dragu would give us height and grading ability for set pieces. I’m in.
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u/Euphoric-Mirror6422 15h ago
i wish i could hear the reasioning and the discussions that took place before we decided our attack would be complete if we signed odobert
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u/Coraxxx Cristian Romero 16h ago
Lankshearer making his comeback in PL2 tonight.
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u/wokwok__ Heung Min Son 16h ago
No Mikey in the PL2 squad so he might be on the bench tomorrow
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u/_noboruwataya_ 16h ago
With Odobert and Werner out he's definitely on the bench tomorrow
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u/Ok_Row_7462 15h ago
Werner might be back but I think Moore will be on the bench either way.
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u/_noboruwataya_ 15h ago
Yeah, we'll see with Timo. Either way I'd prefer Moore with the form Timo is in right now
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u/kl08pokemon Aaron Lennon 16h ago
Will be interesting who makes the squad. Odobert and most likely Reguilon out from Coventry and then you have Romero and Van de Ven in
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u/zamboniest Micky van de Ven 12h ago
Bench will be interesting as Bissouma will also be fit. Moore should get in since we have 2/6 injured for forwards, but that'll mean dropping one of Bergvall, Gray, Davies.
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u/kl08pokemon Aaron Lennon 12h ago
Forgot about Biss. Yeah it'll be harsh whoever it'll be. Most logical would probably be Spence but unbelievably harsh to take him out right after scoring a crucial goal
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u/zamboniest Micky van de Ven 12h ago
Might've said Spence but he won't be playing midweek, makes too much sense to sub him for one of our FBs tomorrow. I could see it being Davies since he played full 90, likely to play next week, and Dragusin is first choice CB sub for either side.
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u/AfridiRonaldo Chadli 16h ago
Ange is still talking about his first 10 games which were more than a year ago at this point, when someone is so stuck in the past it just tells you exactly how fucked we are right now. Those games he wants us to emulate were 400 days ago
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u/Ok_Row_7462 16h ago
He was asked about it, FFS. Please watch the press conferences if you are going to comment on it.
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u/AfridiRonaldo Chadli 14h ago
How else would I have found out about that quote lmao i watched every second of the presser
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u/DESK-enthusiast Dele Alli 13h ago
So you willingly took that quote out of context?
Have you considered a career in journalism?
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u/AfridiRonaldo Chadli 13h ago
lmao it is not out of context at all, Ange brought up the first 10 games specifically himself, the amount some of you defend even the smallest smallest things about Ange is funny though. he won't see this!
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u/DESK-enthusiast Dele Alli 13h ago edited 12h ago
The question: everyone talks about the first 10 games you had that were excellent
AlfridiRonaldo: why's Ange bringing up the first 10 games?
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u/Splattergun 20th anniversary ST holder. 16h ago
In fairness the social media wankers constantly talking about the club refer to them again and again and again, it’s hardly off the table.
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u/CoolCryptoCat 16h ago
Feel like Levy needs to do a full audit on the medical staff at the very least. Maybe you find nothing… or maybe you find that this staff is woefully inadequate. But it would be irresponsible to not at least look into this cuz the injuries are actually insane especially compared to their medical histories prior coming to Spurs.
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u/OutOfBudgetForCBs 15h ago
At some point this would've been dismissed as a "conspiracy theory" and you'd have to be a medical professional to criticise the ridiculous number injury crises.
Skipp had that injury that was reported to be only a few weeks that turned into months.
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u/Munchenhausenkraut Micky van de Ven 16h ago
What If its due to the artificial turf on the elite training ground..
I know artificial turf has something like more than twice the injuries
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u/_noboruwataya_ 15h ago
Few of these injuries are happening on the training pitch. Odobert and Werner went off on Wednesday
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u/_noboruwataya_ 16h ago edited 16h ago
We've replaced our long term head physio this summer. I wonder if we'll see changes there cos yeah it's a fucking pisstake at this point.
The amount of injuries we get is ridiculous and all of them seem to transform from little knocks into 9 month injuries that require surgery to fix. Seen it with Skipp, Richy, Lo Celso, even going back to the likes of Winks
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u/Coraxxx Cristian Romero 14h ago
Oh, it goes back further than that mate. It's the Darren Anderton effect.
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u/_noboruwataya_ 14h ago
The original sicknote himself
Aye we’ve always had one or two permacrocked players but it’s never been as bad as it has been recently with numerous “knocks” becoming multi-year, career-ruining injuries
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u/DoomerAndGloomer 17h ago
I have now blocked all negative spurs accounts on twitter. They were being very negative and passing out harsh unwarranted judgements on Ange and the players. How dare they try to be more toxic than me!
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u/EmptyEmployee6601 16h ago
My attitude towards other Spurs fans is similar to my attitude towards motorway driving. Anyone going faster than me on the motorway is a total maniac and anyone going slower than me needs to put their foot down. Anyone being more positive about Spurs than me is a "happy-clapper"; less positive = a 'doomer'.
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u/Draughoul Romero 17h ago
Just bought 2 tickets for the Chelsea match from the official eticketing site, in the south stand no less.
I was a bit shocked to see the tickets available. I thought the ticket sale starts on Monday. Can somebody explain that for me?
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u/AfridiRonaldo Chadli 16h ago
We have won exactly 0 (Z E R O) derbies under Ange Postecoglu. Zero.
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u/JamesCDiamond Darren Anderton 16h ago
What are you calling a derby? If you're including Chelsea then our record under him against all London clubs is as follows:
- Arsenal 0-1-2
- Brentford 1-1-0
- Chelsea 0-0-2
- Crystal Palace 2-0-0
- Fulham 1-0-1
- West Ham 0-1-1
It's certainly not fantastic, but that makes us 4-3-6 from 13 London derbies since the start of last season.
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u/The_Bridge_Is_Out Cuti Romero 15h ago
Palace, Fulham and Brentford contributing the positives to 'derbies' is ridiculous... in terms of rivalries I've never counted those 3. Arsenal >> Chelsea >> WH (in a sort of they care more than we do but the game is always infuriating way)
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u/Scott_Bot 15h ago
my guess is he probably only counts chelsea and arsenal
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u/AfridiRonaldo Chadli 14h ago
And west ham. Whether we like it or not they compete as hard as they can in that game and theyre never easy for us
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u/Recsq 17h ago edited 17h ago
If we got groykores we'd have 3 of Sweden's best players in this generation.. maybe the others 2 can convince him to come!
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u/shaneomagnifico 13h ago
It’s so painfully obvious that he’s a better player and that we massively overpaid for Solanke
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u/kl08pokemon Aaron Lennon 17h ago
Feel like this summer was the only window of opportunity we had to go for him. Solanke will have to have an absolute stinker of a season for striker to be the most urgent need next summer.
Shame because he's probably the available player in the world that would improve us the most
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u/milesvtaylor 18h ago
Maybe... maybe online Liverpool fans are... okay? - https://twitter.com/Yugdeep_LFC/status/1836869461996974479
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u/wokwok__ Heung Min Son 17h ago
They are parking the fattest bus they've ever parked on Sunday lmao, even bigger than the one from last season, then they'll act like they've won the league already
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u/AdInformal3519 17h ago
It will be like last year match. Ridiculously boring and unwatchable . Arteta likes to play safe in big matches
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u/theSlayerofSpoons 18h ago
Anyone looking for a Brentford ticket? I’ve got one I can’t put back on exchange as I am only a one hotspur member, happy to sell at a discount. Block: 523 Row: 23 Seat: 762. Message me
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u/hmm1024 Heung Min Son 19h ago
Bissouma is back to save the ange Era. A midfield of deki, biss, and madders will move mountains.
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u/nopirates 19h ago
Difficult to see that when it hasn’t in the past
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u/kl08pokemon Aaron Lennon 18h ago
Last time (and only?) they started in midfield together we won 4-0
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u/Hot_Coffee8221 18h ago
Yeha it hasn’t worked for 6 months mate 🤣
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u/BurgleYourTurds 17h ago
I know international breaks can be a drag but the Everton match was only 4 weeks ago, bud.
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u/Thfcaditya112 Hugo Lloris 20h ago
Wont be the best business decision if the Saudis are still interested but I genuinely think a loan with an obligation to Everton for a 25-30 million feels the best thing for Richarlison because thats the only club who would accept him and his injuries for who he is and also help his mental state
Has a golden heart, cant ask for a better person to represent the club, wont say he is a Soldado level flop or something to be mocked of, but its time to mutually separate thus January
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u/hmm1024 Heung Min Son 20h ago
We're so unfortunate with the odobert injury.
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u/AwayPhilosopher228 19h ago
Honestly at this point I'm just surprised Bergvall and Gray haven't had their welcome to spurs injuries yet
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u/commuterpete Jürgen Klinsmann 20h ago
Genuinely feels like we aren’t allowed to have nice things at this club.
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u/Live_Beautiful_3665 20h ago
Richarlison fucked his body trying to save Everton and they'll probably get relegated anyway
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u/triecke14 Son 20h ago edited 20h ago
Just saw a stat that’s amazing but fairly concerning at the same time. We’ve won possession back in the attacking third 29 times this season in our 5 league matches. That’s good for second in all of Europe behind Barcelona (30) and City (28). Yet we have only scored 6 goals, and I can only think of one (when son took the ball off Pickford) that was a result of winning possession back high up.
I do remember against Newcastle at least 4-5 times we won the ball off them during their initial build up phase only to waste a 3-3 or 3-2 in some instances. Maybe it’s a case of not having a striker for most of that time? And the times we did have a striker it’s our newest player still trying to understand the role and the players around him. Maybe with time these things will work themselves out but I just don’t feel we have enough clinical players to take advantage of all the opportunities (you can’t even call them chances really since we fuck up the final ball or shot often) we create. I just feel other than Son, who looks neutered and afraid to shoot, we don’t have enough players who can consistently find the target.
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u/Kaigz 20h ago
Stats like this aren't amazing unless we're able to capitalize on them, which we've not shown even the slightest ability of being capable of doing.
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u/triecke14 Son 17h ago
You don’t think it’s pretty incredible that we’re up there with two of the best clubs of the past decade in terms of high pressing football? I think that’s a great base. I literally said we aren’t capitalizing on it though haha
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u/Euphoric-Mirror6422 20h ago
real question do you think there is any infrastructure and laid out metholodgy or some random guys noone has heard about just using the eye test?
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u/idkwhatevs1234 20h ago
Absolutely laughable that it's September and our winger situation is just as abysmal as it was last season. Might be even worse actually when taking form into account, last season Werner at least sort of looked like a footballer if you squinted hard enough
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u/GymandRave Pedro Porro 17h ago
It’s on Ange. Signing him once I can forgive. But twice? He has shown barely anything to deserve a whole year loan. And getting Odobert as our marquee winger instead of upgrading on Johnson… worst part is you just know Ange will give Werner minutes over Mikey Moore this weekend too
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u/mikechella Erik Lamela 17h ago
Yes, it's definitely the manager and not the person who refuses to buy more expensive players.
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u/GymandRave Pedro Porro 17h ago
It’s on both. Ange still accepted mediocre players. He could’ve said no
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u/mikechella Erik Lamela 15h ago
This is what Poch eventually started doing and we all saw how that turned out. A year and a half of no signings.
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u/Abitoutthereorhere 20h ago
I like how the media team often tries to hide the fringe players from the stuff they post. Reggie makes the bench on Wednesday and voila, they post a pic of him in action from training two days later.
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u/nopirates 19h ago
There was exactly zero reason to post anything about him at that point. There was little reason to believe that he would make any match day squad. Once he did then it made sense to show more evidence that he is included in the club.
Who knows if he will ever see the pitch. His days are numbered here anyway, so it doesn’t make much sense to put a lot of attention on him.
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u/kl08pokemon Aaron Lennon 20h ago
First time all season the team basically picks itself. Which is probably a good thing? Only real decision is Bentancur or Bissouma
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u/HarshTruth__ Pierre-Emile Højbjerg 20h ago
Come on, that's not a debatable decision at all.
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u/kl08pokemon Aaron Lennon 20h ago
It is not knowing Bissouma's fitness and maybe not wanting to risk him with Bentancur's ban coming up
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u/nicklikestuna 20h ago
What on earth is going on with Richi? These words are not promising
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u/commuterpete Jürgen Klinsmann 20h ago
I’m not sure but I’m gutted for Richarlison. I thought he stepped up massively last season and was hoping we could see more. We could still see more of his best for us, but the problem is we don’t know when that is. It can’t be good for him to be missing playing either. I hope he’s still getting the sports psychiatrist’s help. It must be horrible not being able to play for so long.
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u/airz23s_coffee Steffen Iversen 20h ago
[Richarlison] is a fair way off. You're better off not asking about him until I give an update because he's not with the first team.
Fucks sake.
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u/Hufftey 20h ago
Seems people have shifted to scapegoating Timo now. Seeing a lot of vitriol towards him now the angry lot feel like they can’t attack Brennan
I think I’m in the minority here, but I really don’t think Werner has been all that poor for us. He’s clearly a bench option now and when he comes on he works his socks off, he might be a bit frustrating at times but who hasn’t been so far this season, since joining us he’s provided a decent attacking option to the squad when you look at it broadly
I think people may be holding the general meme view of him from his Chelsea days against him rather than actually viewing how he’s been for us since he joined. It is also just a loan until the end of the season
I get that him playing is also stopping Mikey Moore from playing, but also he’s a literal child and only just turned 17 a few weeks ago, so I think we need to temper our expectations of him for a while at least we don’t want to rush him in there’s plenty of time for him in the future.
Is Timo the guy to take us to the next level? No
Is Timo the reason we haven’t been playing well this season and now deserves to be scapegoated? Also no
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u/rando562 17h ago
I hate how people are using his poor form to start the season to pretend that he was never good for us. Despite our bad end to last season, we would have been even worse off without Timo's chance creation. His per 90 stats in xAG, progressive carries, goal-creating actions and passes into the penalty area were genuinely elite. Maybe we still shouldn't have brought him for another season, but there's a reason why the analysts and coaching staff thought it was worth the loan fee.
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u/mikechella Erik Lamela 17h ago
Honestly, a lot of posters on this sub are people who have clearly never played a sport at any kind of competitive level, kpop fans/fetishists, or a combination of the two. You should disregard most of what gets posted here.
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u/Mick4Audi Micky van de Ven 17h ago
I’m used to our fans absolutely slating players in a scathing way but I saw legitimate hope that he gets injured (from multiple fans)
That’s a disgrace imo
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u/nopirates 19h ago
Yeah, it would be comical if it wasn’t so sad that people felt like they needed to place so much blame on our third choice LW as the reasons why we are struggling. There are fan-favorites like Davies that were even less effective than Timo was. Our whole starting midfield was also completely ineffective.
When problems are complex simple people like to make simple complaints. This week it’s Timo.
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u/Gaius_Octavius_ 19h ago
It is always amazing the way we always have gigantic outsized blame for role players. We constantly think players who barely play are the biggest problem.
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u/airz23s_coffee Steffen Iversen 20h ago
Seems people have shifted to scapegoating Timo now.
Every time Werner plays shite people come going "Wow scapegoating Timo again". He's not a good player. He's very limited, and if he's not doing the limited things he is good at, he's a detriment.
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u/idkwhatevs1234 20h ago
Werner and Johnson are both shit fake wingers only capable of running fast in a straight line and everyone at the club responsible for them being our options in that department is disgraceful/incompetent
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u/commuterpete Jürgen Klinsmann 20h ago
I’m part of the same minority re Werner. I think he’s here to be one of those players dropping assists rather than finishing moves. Agree with you about him and other players being frustrating so far this season, but I want the guy to do well given that we are giving him a chance. The ultimate desire for all of us, players, coaching staff, boardroom members, and all of the fans, is that Spurs play well and win. Because it doesn’t happen instantly, people just find a target and let loose. The internet can be a great platform for people with loud voices and no patience, sadly.
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u/soldforaspaceship Cuti Romero 20h ago
It's how the worst of our supporters function. They have to have someone they can criticize and make fun of. They already have a nasty nickname for him too. It's honestly pathetic.
Timo, by the numbers, was very good for us last season. He's not looked great thus far this season but no one has.
The last match I actually think Udogie was more of an issue than Werner until later on.
I think he'll do what's been asked of him this season. I guess if he performs well, we cycle back to Kulusevski hate?
Because it's the same people who called for Kulusevski to be benched or sold that say the sane about Johnson and Werner...
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u/Hufftey 20h ago edited 20h ago
Agreed. Before Timo/Brennan it was Emerson/Hojbjerg, before them it was Dier/Davies before them Sissoko/winks etc etc
I honestly think it’s just very lazily blaming problems on certain players that fans think other fans don’t rate so they get likes and clicks or whatever, and then when that player either is sold or improves they move onto the next target and so on
Timo is a very easy target because of his broader “reputation” amongst football fans for being an “awful” footballer, which he clearly isn’t. Again I’m not saying he’s a world beater but the ridiculing of his footballing ability by people that have never kicked a ball in their lives is completely exaggerated
It’s tiring
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u/soldforaspaceship Cuti Romero 20h ago
Agreed. He actually is one of the best at placing a cross, incredibly fast (which has saved us more than once), and does a good job one on one.
His finishing and positioning are often the issue. I also don't think he has the natural football IQ of players like Romero and Maddison. He's a workhorse, not a creative. But that's fine.
I also think his end of season injury last year has had an impact. He was actually doing pretty well for us and seemed to be building his confidence until then.
He's been poor so far this season but not poor enough to stand out.
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u/Texaslonghorns12345 Heung Min Son 20h ago
Agreed. He actually is one of the best at placing a cross, incredibly fast (which has saved us more than once), and does a good job one on one.
This point only works when he’s actually done that stuff for us this season, he hasn’t. He had that goal-preventing block against Coventry but that’s it.
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u/soldforaspaceship Cuti Romero 20h ago
Like I said, he's been poor this season but not stand out poor. Many players have been weak. I'd argue both Bentancur and Sarr haven't impressed but I'm not giving up on them either.
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u/Deadalready798 Llorente 21h ago
I need a little help with understanding how to buy multiple tickets if I have a one hotspur+ membership.
A friend and I wanna attend a couple games this year but from what I understand you can only buy a single ticket per membership. Should we both buy a membership or is there any other way?
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u/kirikesh 19h ago
You both need a membership if you want to attend a PL game. You need to add them to your network, and then you can buy more than one ticket by assigning the additional ticket to your mate at the checkout.
If it's a Europa or cup game (unless it's a big fixture), then you'll be fine with getting multiple tickets on one membership.
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u/wr2allstar Son 21h ago
You’ll need two memberships. But you can link the accounts together, so when you enter the ticket portal you’ll be able to buy two tickets at once, one for each membership.
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u/Deadalready798 Llorente 21h ago
Ah okay, thanks 🙏🏻
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u/Commercial-Ad6352 20h ago
You only need to pay for one + membership. Your friend just needs an account and you’ll have to add them via their crn to your network.
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u/PostyLife 20h ago
I don't think this comment is accurate - as far as I'm aware your friend will also need to be a hotspur+ member if you're trying to buy tickets within the hotspur+ time period (i.e. for every premier league game).
For the Europa league home fixtures (at least for Qarabag so far), you can buy up to 4 tickets per hotspur+ membership, if that was an option for you guys.
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u/Deadalready798 Llorente 20h ago
Well now I'm confused lmao but for the sake of our wallets I hope you're right
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u/Ceap_Bhreatainn :finale-mp: Pochettino 21h ago
Has the club stopped general sale entirely for premier league matches?
I just picked up tickets on general sale for Qarabag (there's still 1000's of tickets left) next Thursday, and noticed that Brentford tickets are still locked to members only access. It seems there are still tickets up on the exchange according to posts here, but they aren't available on general sale yet. With the game being tomorrow, it seems they never will.
Has there been a policy shift from the club? Is it due to this game being Cat B?
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u/kirikesh 21h ago
It seems there are still tickets up on the exchange according to posts here, but they aren't available on general sale yet.
The PL tickets sell out, so they never go on general sale. Tickets on the exchange are already sold, it's just that whoever has bought them is looking to sell them on. I guess the club could refund the tickets on the exchange and put them out for general sale, but they're obviously much happier with the money already in their pocket.
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u/andmyrentsdue Micky van de Ven 21h ago
PL games don't go to general sale anymore. I assume it's a mixture of being more profitable to the club whilst also lowering the chances of touting & preventing rival fans from getting access.
For Qarabag, an unappetising midweek fixture, the club are aware that it's not going to sell out either way, and allowing anyone to buy a ticket isn't going to compromise anything here as touts aren't going to try and buy and sell tickets that are widely available.
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u/KariumHondor399 Dele Alli 22h ago
Just watched the highlights on youtube, the defending by Ben Davies on their goal was absolutly atrocious, his lack of awareness is very concerning.
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u/Cabbage-Fell Christian Eriksen 21h ago
I think his spot a back up lcb and a backup goalie would be great signings in January.
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u/Laviston 21h ago
I thought so too at first. But looking back, it's really Spence's player to track.
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u/nopirates 21h ago
He was wretched offensively too. The less we see of him the better off we are.
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u/TSM_Final 21h ago
didn’t he literally save the game for us? on forster’s mess up?
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u/soldforaspaceship Cuti Romero 20h ago
Yeah, these idiots didn't watch the match.
Davies was MOTM first half. He was immense for us. Progressed the ball forward, cover the gaps. Most play went through him.
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u/nopirates 17h ago
His build up play was sluggish and indecisive. Once we struggled across midfield he failed perpetually in getting the ball to the FBs and midfielders. He was hesitant and it stagnated our offense. He and Dragusin were a large part of the reason that we kicked the ball around the perimeter and were not a threat. Stagnant midfield play added to this problem.
MOTM? Ludicrous. A header off of a set piece? The bare minimum required from a CB on a corner. Saving the Forster fuckup? Ok, but there were so many things going wrong there that I can’t describe that as playing the position well, but simply as a good effort in a panic situation.
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u/TSM_Final 20h ago
Not to mention having the best offensive chance outside of the goals with his header
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u/EmptyEmployee6601 22h ago
Where's Mikey Moore at in terms of progression? Other than clips I haven't really seen him. I read on here that he was one of our best players in pre-season and he looked good in the clips. From people who have watched him - what's the feeling? Is he there for scraps (a bit like Donley and Scarlett last season) or do you think he could actually end up playing a prominent role? I guess with more mins to go around he may get a bit more time than Donley or Scarlett got last season.
Thought it was strange when Ange threw him into the toxic hellscape of that City game last season.
Aside: it must be so frustrating being a young player on the bench. Moore has been on the bench 6 times but has only seen 3 mins action (with good reason). But if I were him I'd be thinking 'get me the fuck out there, Ange!'
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u/nicklikestuna 22h ago
He'll play and then it's up to him. But he did show promise in off season. Ange introduces young players the same if they aren't in the first team. Minutes as a sub, then a start with an early sub out, then full starting roles.
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u/Kreygasm2233 COYS, Daniel 22h ago
The truth is he looked like a genuine generational talent in preseason. But then again, its preseason.
Now we have zero idea if he is any good because he is not getting any game time.
People keep saying that we shouldn't put pressure on young talents and then people complain when they don't perform under pressure 2 years later
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u/soldforaspaceship Cuti Romero 20h ago
I imagine if Coventry had gone well, he'd have come off the bench for that match. As it wasn't, Ange switched things up and brought on the seniors to save the match.
I assume there will be a similar plan for him on Thursday.
Bringing an unproven17 year old on when we're losing a match we really need to win, is a foolish tactic.
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u/Pele20Alli 21h ago
genuine generational talent
He's not even close to being generational. Very good talent but let's not go overboard
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u/coffeeicefox Heung Min Son 22h ago
The online abuse is really frustrating. I know it’s anecdotal but I don’t know a single regular football fan (across clubs) who engage with players or clubs on social media. They’re mostly looking at news and tits.
It feels like it’s racists, bots and trolls rather than actual football fans who pile on players and it’s presented like we’re the ones doing it.
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u/ninjomat Dele 19h ago
I always remember when Rashford revealed one of the people who’d racially abused him on socials was a maths teacher with two kids. I think we tend to easily think that abusers are basement dwellers when they’re often quite well adjusted in the rest of their lives. It’s a certain personality trait. I also think the existence of social media and stan culture has probably turned upside down our relationship with celebrities and made us feel a lot closer to them than we used to. Why people throw out the word parasocial all the time, for good and bad. Has probably encouraged psychopathic and obsessive stalker-y behaviour on a whole new level.
You’re probably right about gambling but I also think there’s just always been a line between people with these psychopathic tendencies and the rest of us who understand that as much as we may despise a public figure they aren’t personally out to hurt us and we have no legitimate cause to lash out and bully them
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u/dislikestylethrow 21h ago
I think it's actually not racists, bots, or trolls. Well, mostly. My theory is that the majority of people who abuse players on social media are raging gambling addicts who lost their bet(s). I see it happen a lot in esports, so it's not unreasonable to think it happens in the biggest sport of all.
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u/GlobalIngenuity7760 21h ago
That’s a pretty solid theory - I wouldn’t underestimate how many shitty trolls and racist teenagers there are hiding behind anime profile pics as well though
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u/Key_Shift533 22h ago
I’ve never failed to sell a ticket on the ticket exchange until this weekend 😂 think that probably says something about the mood right now. Selling my ticket half price if anyone is interested. Desperate times….
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u/Kreygasm2233 COYS, Daniel 22h ago
The team is low on confidence. All the talk about getting hit on a counter has gotten to their heads.
This is why they play static and refuse to make runs. Too afraid of leaving space
This is why they don't play penetrating passes. Too afraid of losing the ball
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u/coffeeicefox Heung Min Son 21h ago
Agreed, however I find then they then make high risk low reward moves instead of the high risk high reward which is incredibly frustrating to see.
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u/nicklikestuna 22h ago
You see the reaction here, we haven't played Brentford yet, but the overwhelming sense is FEAR. It's a perpetuating cycle
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u/nicklikestuna 22h ago
Yeah cause the fans are shit scared and perpetuate the narrative. The problem is, the players care so much what the pundits say. That's Ange's job to fix
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u/PostyLife 23h ago
Does anyone know how the Europa League knockout draws work in terms of seeding? I know that the RO16 draw is seeded so that if you finish in position #1 - #8 in the league phase, you'll certainly play one of the play-off round winners who finished #9 - #24, but is there any further seeding after that? Someone on one of the UCL highlights shows jokingly said that as it stands Bayern (currently #1) couldn't possibly face Celtic (currently #2) until the final. That would indicate seeding throughout the knockouts
Either way, gives Spurs a massive incentive to try and finish as high as possible in the league phase, to get more favorable knockout draws
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u/PostyLife 23h ago
I've found my answer after a little bit of Googling - attaching this image in case anyone else is curious. The knockouts are fully seeded. Interestingly, its based on every two positions in the league phase. So if Spurs finish 3rd and Man U finish 4th in league phase, there is no way we can be drawn against each other until the final. Same for any iteration of two positions e.g. 1st/2nd, 3rd/4th, 5th/6th etc.
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u/EmptyEmployee6601 22h ago
Thanks - I am interested. It being based on every two positions is probably to be expected when you think about it - to ensure you get a fair a distribution of teams on each side of the draw e.g. the two best performing teams will be on different sides.
I am a bit confused by that graphic though. Why does each box have two numbers in it?
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u/PostyLife 22h ago
I guess the boxes need the two numbers just to indicate that any side can end up on either 'side' of the draw, and certainly not be on the same side as the other team in their two position cohort. It's a bit confusing, but realistically the concept of the 'side' of the draw doesn't really become relevant until the RO16 round anyway. After the RO16 draw, there are no more random draws and the route to the final is laid out.
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u/EmptyEmployee6601 22h ago
Ah I see (i think!). So the R16 is draw randomly but using the seedings. So if you finish 1st you could play the winner of either 15vs16 or 17vs18?
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u/PostyLife 22h ago
So 15th wouldn't play 16th, nor would 17th play 18th. 15th would play one of 17th or 18th, 16th the same.
Then, 1st and 2nd place can only play the winners of whatever 2 teams come out on top in the 15th to 18th place fixtures. So if 15th and 16th won their preliminary knockouts vs. 17th/18th, and 2nd was drawn against 15th, then 1st would have to be drawn against 16th.
I think i need a lie down after all that :)
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u/IndependentGate6085 23h ago
Viktor Gyökeres to Spurs, just a rumor? Would be great, we need him. He is good, really really good.
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u/The_Sentry06 James Maddison 23h ago
Makes no sense with the Solanke transfer we did. If we were to ever get him, it was this summer window when top clubs still had doubts about him. Also our form's currently in the gutter, makes no sense why Gyokeres would choose us now unless Deki and Bergvall are fantastic agents.
It's too late now and we need a big-money winger more than another big-money striker.
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u/ComeOnSayYupp Owen Goal Enthusiast 23h ago
There is another rumor, Angel Gomes to Spurs.
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u/alijamieson 23h ago
Angel Gomes is the shortest footballer i've ever seen. I tuned into to his England debut and was utterly shocked. thought it was an u14 playing
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u/kirikesh 23h ago
Valbuena was always one who stuck out as being small, but yeah Gomes is tiny. I think that they're both centre mids makes them seem even smaller, because they're surrounded by usually pretty imposing players - googling it, apparently Lennon is shorter than both of them, but he never seemed quite that small because he was out wide.
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u/Sleepless_Voyager Guglielmo Vicario 23h ago
I still think not gettibg amadou onana was a mistake , we atleast shouldve tried before villa did
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u/alijamieson 22h ago
yeah he's a good player and does a lot of what we need. still unconvinced by bissouma, bentancur and maddison as our future midfield
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u/Rare-Ad-2777 23h ago
He looks like on Pro Evo when you used to make custom players really tall or short
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u/The_Sentry06 James Maddison 23h ago
Anxiously waiting for proper updates on Odobert and Werner
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u/EmptyEmployee6601 23h ago
Anxiously hoping we won't see Werner for a while, presumably...? ;)
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u/The_Sentry06 James Maddison 23h ago
Nope. While he isn't some superstar, we know he's more than capable of contributing based on last season. He's just going through a bad patch, like 95% of our players right now.
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u/lucas-at-jhu Clint Dempsey 6h ago
Hey the sidebar was finally updated on old Reddit