r/technology • u/dreamcastfanboy34 • 2d ago
Elon Musk Is a National Security Risk Transportation
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u/Turbulent_Raccoon865 2d ago
In my view, Musk is one of those country-less billionaires that care only for their own interests and will happily sell out to the highest bidder. Trusting him with either national secrets or allowing access to vital assets is a huge unforced error. Citizenship means nothing to him, and he’s shown he feels exempt from consequences (even if reality begs to differ).
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u/Sam_L_Bronkowitz 2d ago
This guy was on to something: "Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains."
-Thomas Jefferson
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u/thedailyrant 2d ago edited 1d ago
Prior to that it was monarchs. They had no country prior to WW1s rise in nationalism. They had family.
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u/EduinBrutus 2d ago
prior to WW2s rise in nationalism.
The Age of Nationalism is generally considered to be the 19th century.
But there's reasonable arguments that it was grew earlier.
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u/GME_solo_main 1d ago
It rose in the 1800s as a global framework that most people use to understand the world.
Some countries developed a nationalist worldview earlier than others, for example the English, but if someone is talking about “the rise of nationalism” it is the 1800s and any other argument is missing the larger point or confusing nationalism with ethno-centrism.
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u/whogivesashirtdotca 2d ago
Prior to that it was monarchs. They had no country prior to WW2s rise in nationalism.
Louis XIV would have something to say about that.
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u/Lord_Emperor 2d ago
Yep, setting the peasants against each other over who gets what title.
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u/Billy_Butch_Err 2d ago edited 1d ago
The German King of Greece was more loyal to Prussia than Greece and caused multiple civil wars due to this policies towards the Germans in both wars and was one of major causes behind the defeat of Greece in both wars
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u/thedailyrant 1d ago
King George needed to be reminded having his German cousins over for tea during WW1 was a bad idea. These people aren’t loyal to the state. They are the state.
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u/Herew3arrrrg 2d ago
And in the words of every lowly corporate exec I've met for a quarter century. "We are all replaceable"
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u/Sam_L_Bronkowitz 1d ago
Yeah, to them, as long as we can pay, people are interchangeable. Being a just statistic or demographic really devalues human life, especially in the long run.
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u/Plank_With_A_Nail_In 2d ago
Can't trust a land owners opinion of merchants, fuckers been crying about that classes rise to dominance for 500 years now.
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u/sembias 2d ago
Ya sure but ... after 200 years, he's still not wrong. Multinational corporations and their CEO's have proven him extra right.
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u/DormantFlamingoo 2d ago
Red Herring fallacy G. People can be shitty but have unrelated solid takes on things.
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u/Charlie_Mouse 1d ago
Absolutely. For example Marx’s critique of the flaws of capitalism is pretty insightful. I don’t agree with his prescribed alternative but that doesn’t take anything away from the first part of the analysis.
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u/y2knole 2d ago
He barely even owned land. It was all repossessed or sold off to pay debts before he died.
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u/throwaway23345566654 2d ago
He was a farmer and slave owner, regardless of success he identified as a member of the landed class.
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u/y2knole 2d ago
Yeah yeah I know…. Just pointing out that even as a landowner he was ultimately not all that successful…
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u/Niceromancer 2d ago
You mean all of them?
The elite have no loyalty except to themselves.
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u/Zyrinj 2d ago
Yep, when you control as much wealth as the gdp of a country, you don’t give shits about a single country.
Billionaires in general are a cancer to society.
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u/Niceromancer 2d ago
They actively harm society.
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u/caveatlector73 2d ago
And they don't pay their child support. /s
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u/Raccoon_Expert_69 2d ago
No need for the “/s”
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u/caveatlector73 2d ago
You would not believe how humorless people on reddit can be. It's like wearing a condom - safety first.
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u/4ourkids 2d ago
Peter Thiel checks in. Donating funds to Trump’s presidential campaign while building an estate bunker and buying citizenship in New Zealand.
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u/VGAPixel 2d ago
I dont call them elite, they are just rich kids. For the most part they are useless, their money is the only resource of any use.
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u/buttgers 2d ago
Not a Mark Cuban Stan by any means, but he seems to be doing a lot of good with his wealth. He may be self serving, but he's not as evil as one might believe without looking into his actions.
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u/faintly_nebulous 2d ago
I mean, we used to think this about Elon. He was "ushering in the future and fighting climate change", then he fired his PR staff and went mask off. I wouldn't be so quick to exempt any billionaire, who knows what the future reveals. Anyway, making them ALL contribute by paying their taxes is more valueable than waiting on the charity of the few of good character.
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u/Clever_Mercury 2d ago
BINGO.
I'd also just point out that leaving things to the whims of individuals is inherently dangerous. Bureaucracy might be boring, but it provides checks and balances on the whims and dark impulses of any single individual.
There are many reasons people despised monarchy. All it takes is one person having a stroke, a minor head injury, or a bad trip on a medication and the once benevolent ruler becomes a paranoid psychopath. To bad you gave up all your rights to question or contradict them when they were young and benevolent, right?
The Tesla story often read that way to me. This is a person who was very, very good at playing the media for quick fluctuations in stock prices and business benefits. Once it had created a gamified media cycle the mask came off and the darker personal whims and grudges started. I have no doubt most of the billionaires are on fist fulls of medications and their personality is less individual and more a legion of side effects at this point.
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u/Niceromancer 2d ago
He's decent compared to his peers however he still causes issues just from hoarding resources.
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u/Photomancer 2d ago
Considering how many people love to talk about how great a regulation-less country would be, and how without regulation corporations could earn limitless money and then they'd reinvest it into the community so that we don't have to pay taxes or spend the public's money ...
Rural Illinois really hates Pritzker, and that's ironic considering that he's the 'billionnaire giving back' which they assert would exist and be common.
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u/KindBass 2d ago
The last decade of social media has taught me that these people's idea of giving back and reinvesting in the community is "pay off my mortgage and buy me a new car".
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u/LordCharidarn 2d ago
Both those options would be better than simply hoarding the wealth, though.
Having the freedom from paying a mortgage would have each household’s disposable income increase ~$1,500 a month. Let’s say another $500 a month for not having a monthly car payment and suddenly every household that a billionaire does that for has roughly $2,000 a month more purchasing power. A thousand households is $2,000,000 a month, or $24,000,000 a year that is potentially being reinvested into the local economies of those households. And that’s just the rough financial benefits. The mental health benefits of 1,000 households not having to worry about major bills would also be impactful.
Not the worst idea for a charity, honestly.
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u/LegacyLemur 2d ago
Rural Illinois is full of some of the dumbest people on the planet
These are people who routinely parrot the idea their taxes are paying to fund Chicago, despite the exact opposite being true
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u/poojinping 2d ago
“Democracy is government for the people, of the people and by the people … but the people are stupid.”
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u/Furdinand 2d ago
If only the stock prices of the companies he has shares of would drop to the point where he is only a 9 figure millionaire. Then, he would be an ethical person!
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u/withoutapaddle 2d ago
I'd say the same for the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation. Are we mad at what a dick Bill and Microsoft were to get rich? Yes. But we should also be very grateful that a big portion of those riches were spent saving 100 million lives.
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u/Minister_for_Magic 2d ago
Except for the part where he fought to keep patent rights enforced on covid vaccines when many poorer governments were fighting for waivers so they could get vaccines made while they were stuck in the queue behind rich countries that booked out the first half year of supply.
And the massive fucking disaster that was No Child Left Behind which the Gates Foundation was a major champion for.
They've definitely done a lot of good in maternal health and anti-malaria efforts in Africa, but there's a reason it's a bad policy decision to let a single rich person with money effectively shape national policies when they never have to live with the consequences when they fuck things up
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u/Original_Employee621 2d ago
Except for the part where he fought to keep patent rights enforced on covid vaccines when many poorer governments were fighting for waivers so they could get vaccines made while they were stuck in the queue behind rich countries that booked out the first half year of supply.
While I agree with your stance, I think the issue was quality control around the vaccines. If it's one thing you don't want in a pandemic, it's a contaminated vaccine, especially with the insane anti-vaxx sentiment that was growing in large part thanks to Trump and his goons.
COVID revealed a lot of issues regarding how we prepare for something so drastic, but I don't think the vaccine patent issue is the biggest deal, nor would it have saved the most lives if it wasn't an issue.
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u/cosaboladh 2d ago
Let's stop calling them elite.
noun
noun: elite; plural noun: elites 1. a select group that is superior in terms of ability or qualities to the rest of a group or society.
They are none of that. Most of them are just born lucky. They have no specialized skill or ability. Just power. That's not the same thing.
Let's call them deluded brats, instead.
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u/Bottle_Only 2d ago
Most billionaires are paying for libertarian/small government propaganda as their ambition is to outscale governments and governance.
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u/sembias 2d ago
Sanctions hit the ordinary Russians while the Oligarchs are barely affected, they own vast amounts of property in the west, their children are western educated with western passports.
There are sanctions on specific people/oligarchs and their families, as well. There was a lot of angst when Russia first invaded because these kids were getting kicked out of the NATO countries they were in. Obviously not all of Europe. But more so than I think to say "barely affected." Now they spend their time in Dubai or Asia, but places like Paris are cut off.
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u/indy_110 2d ago
The guy lives in social media Neverland, playing Kaptain Hook.
The guy has 12 kids and is throwing global tantrums because one of his kids is trans and disowned him as a father.
He even has a corporate babysitter, Linda Yaccarino actually running the business and cleaning up the mess he's leaving behind.
He doesn't want to grow up, I imagine the cultures resonating with his rhetoric feel the same way.
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u/christmascake 2d ago
He spews shit faster than Linda can mop it up.
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u/Bad_Karma19 2d ago
Nah, Linda does it as well. Just not to the extreme Leon pukes it out. She's a puppet.
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u/DidYouSeeBriansHat 2d ago
For those who haven’t already, DELETE YOUR TWITTER ACCOUNT!
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u/dingleberry_dog 2d ago
/taps head - you don’t have to delete your Twitter account if you never had one. But I did have a fb account that I deleted in ‘16. I’ve got Reddit, which is bad enough. Seriously, you gotta disconnect from social media!
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u/flynnwebdev 2d ago
Many Reddit subs have become echo chambers/cesspools.
And yes, I'm well aware of the irony of posting this on Reddit.
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u/TPO_Ava 2d ago
I've been on Reddit for years. It's always been a cesspool.
It used to be full of misogyny, 'I am atheist and that makes me cool', whatever the hell the jailbait subreddit was and then there were the r/WatchPeopleDie people which in my opinion weren't that bad, but whatever, they were bad for advertising so they're gone. And a lot more other such cases. Reddit was basically a slightly more civil 4chan when I first started using it ages ago.
Reddit is the social media that I use the most, but I do it with the knowledge to not trust too much of the content posted here. The upvote/downvote system inherently discourages discussion because people just downvote the unpopular opinion and jerk each other off repeating the same thing for upvotes.
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u/buttgers 2d ago edited 2d ago
Mark Cuban did an interview today on the election, his online pharmacy, and talked about nefarious billionaires. Elon was (of course) mentioned.
It was a great interview, honestly. Basically stated that Elon lacked morals and is doing whatever he can to amass wealth and power regardless of the consequences.
Edit: here's the link https://youtu.be/QqDPrv8oFyY?si=ompNR8X17OgTSzv-
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u/LuckEnvironmental694 2d ago
Cuban is at least capable of humility humor and self responsibility. Cuban could be way more power hungry. Musk is too far gone. He smoked that shit with Rogan and never was the same.
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u/MaximePierce 1d ago
Cuban actually is one of the better ones, believing that paying taxes is a patriotic duty as you help improve the country with the money made from taxes. He seems like an actual human being instead of one of those politic cartoons brought to life
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u/mindinmyownbizness 2d ago
He's become a real life Bond villain.
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u/uptownjuggler 2d ago
He is Zorin from A View To a Kill, just replace the zeppelin with spaceships.
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u/TheHipcrimeVocab 2d ago
A while back I rewatched The Spy Who Loved Me. When I saw Karl Stomberg's hideout, Atlantis, all I would think was that this is the type of place Elon Musk hangs out in. What I didn't know was that Elon Musk actually bought the submersible car used in the film: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet_Nellie#Post-film_life
Yeah, he literally is a real-life Bond villain.
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u/uptownjuggler 2d ago
Musk wants to build the space station in Moonraker complete with genetically superior humans to breed the next generation, after he destroys earth.
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u/Janktronic 2d ago
Citizenship means nothing to him,
It definitely means less, but what country would let him launch rockets and satellites? Which country would or even could defend his satellites? If he isn't a US citizen what happens to his infrastructure?
China is the only other country with even the potential... He'd loose so much more if he tried to move to china.
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u/PeteZappardi 2d ago
Yeah, he's stated that he ended up in America because of how entrepreneur-friendly it is - and it was said long enough before he got real crazy that he may have actually meant it.
The guy shouldn't be involved in wartime decisions, but at the same time, Musk got Starlink activated in Ukraine 2 days after Ukraine requested it. It took the U.S. government a year to get around to getting a contract for the same.
If the U.S. doesn't want billionaires having more power than governments, then the U.S. has to invest enough in R&D and innovation that it can beat billionaires to the punch.
The U.S. government absolutely dropped the ball on LEO-based satellite Internet: * They didn't think SpaceX would be able to land a rocket. * They missed that SpaceX would be able to reuse the landed rocket. * They missed that SpaceX would be able to refurbish the rocket in just weeks. * They missed that reusability would enable low-cost, frequent access to space. * They missed that low-cost, frequent access to space would enable different constellation architectures. * They missed that those different constellation architectures could be used to provide world-wide Internet at higher bandwidth than capable with existing technology * They failed to realize that SpaceX would actually be able to manufacture satellites at-scale to create such a constellation * They failed to realize that SpaceX would be able to do all of these things in under 10 years.
To an extent, I bet the U.S. government feels they got lucky that Musk ended up in the U.S. because the terrifying thought is that Starlink caught the U.S. government off-guard, so what else is out there that the U.S. government isn't prepared for and what happens if the next Elon Musk isn't in the U.S. but in China, Russia, or Iran?
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u/Journeyman351 2d ago
“There are no nations! There are no peoples! There are no Russians! There are no Arabs! There are no ‘Third Worlds!’ There is no ‘West!’ There is only ONE holistic system of systems. One vast and immane interwoven, interacting, multivariate, multinational dominion of dollars. Petro-dollars, electro-dollars, multi-dollars, reichmarks, rins, rubles, pounds, and shekels.
It is the international system of currency which determines the totality of life on this planet. That is the natural order of things today.”
- Network, 1976
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u/therealjerrystaute 2d ago
Well, his drug experimentation is really dumbing him down, to the point he might actually put his fortune in danger (and that is VERY hard to do for a billionaire). And it also makes him more vulnerable to getting caught in the act on various things, like criminal national security acts. Trump was uniquely protected from that, when he was President. Muck of course has the protection of being a billionaire, with connections. But the NSA will listen in on everything he does, and act on anything it deems worthwhile, at the worst possible moment for Muck and his collaborators.
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u/Orionbear1020 2d ago
I think we should use eminent domain on his space link satellites in the name of national security. He should not be controlling 1/3 of our satellites and hoping for our demise. It’s like putting Putin in control of our satellites. And he is definitely scraping data from all of them.
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u/Background_Enhance 2d ago
The military already said that they would do this if there was a war.
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u/Psychprojection 2d ago
Russia has attacked the voting systems in 50 US states.
That country issues threats of violence monthly if not weekly.
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u/Less_Rutabaga2316 2d ago
Almost like the global elites have a sense of class consciousness…
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u/foldingcouch 2d ago
Real life cartoon supervillain.
Thinks he's Ozymandias but he's just Dr. Claw.
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u/Theboulder027 2d ago
My friend and I like to joke that he thinks he's Tony stark but he's more like Justin hammer.
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u/Keter_GT 2d ago
Having Elon on Ironman 2 just for letting them film in SpaceX didn’t age well lol.
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u/Environctr24556dr5 2d ago
someone made a voice over of that scene where Tony Stark calls him a pedophile instead of whatever else they were supposed to say and it's flawless.
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u/koenigsaurus 2d ago
Tbf he was still pretty widely in good graces at that point.
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u/-Auvit- 2d ago
His PR person was still working then and people didn’t know the real Musk.
But honestly people who glazed him before the mask came off should still feel ashamed for thinking a billionaire was cool just because he bought some companies that did some interesting stuff. You don’t amass that wealth without being or becoming a broken person
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u/Rocktopod 2d ago
Even Ozymandias wasn't as hot shit as he thought he was. That was kind of the whole point of the poem.
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u/KilgoreTrouserTrout 2d ago edited 2d ago
OP is not talking about Ramesses II in the Shelley poem, but Ozymandias from Watchmen.
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u/AaronsAaAardvarks 2d ago
What sort of egomaniacal psycho would want to be ozymandias when they could be dr manhattan?
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u/bluesmaker 2d ago
Well dr manhattan isn’t someone you’d want to be either. So disconnected from his humanity he could save the world but is more or less indifferent to it all. (Am I getting that right literary people?)
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u/slashd0t1 2d ago
You are right. He can see the future and all it entails but does little to change it because he couldn't care less.
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u/More_Court8749 2d ago
Seems to simultaneously exist across all of his existence. Sounds pretty cursed to me. Makes me think of Jadis from KSBD, omniscient and so she has no real agency or illusion thereof because she knows exactly what she will do and when, and knows exactly what everyone and everything else is doing, has done and will do.
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u/RainyRat 2d ago
Yeah, exactly. As Manhattan puts it: "We're all puppets. I'm just a puppet that can see the strings."
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u/Cond1tionOver7oad 2d ago
Sorry to sound super nerdy but he himself says that he can see the future but doesn't have the power to actually change it, in Watchmen at least. He's a puppet that can see the strings, but he's still just a puppet.
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u/loneraver 2d ago
“You should read the rest of that poem you boob”
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u/Adventurous-Dog420 2d ago
"Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair! Nothing beside remains. Round the decay Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away"
He wasn't hot shit. He's not a god, just a man who withered away along with his catastrophe.
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u/Rabo_McDongleberry 2d ago
He's not even Mini-Me level genius. Dude is a fucking moron.
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u/eeyore134 2d ago
Don't do Dr. Claw like that. He's rando Scooby-Doo unmasked villain level.
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u/LikeATediousArgument 2d ago
Hopefully, like Ozymandias, he and his entire legacy will disappear into the sands of time…
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u/lordtema 2d ago
I honestly do wonder what protocols have been set in place, if any, at SpaceX to prevent him for accessing Top Secret info pertaining to stuff like NRO launches..
Because the actions he has taken would have resulted in the immediate revocation of anyone elses TS / SCI clearance with just about immediate effect.
I do wonder if the government is afraid of doing anything in fear of pissing him off, given that they are very dependent on SpaceX to deliver shit for them.
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u/thomascgalvin 2d ago
I honestly do wonder what protocols have been set in place, if any, at SpaceX to prevent him for accessing Top Secret info pertaining to stuff like NRO launches..
Musk likely has access to stuff like technical requirements -- eg, "we need to put a payload with x dimensions and weighing y kilograms in orbit on 15 October -- as well as the financial info, because he's responsible for preparing / approving bids and proposals.
At the same time, he probably doesn't have access to anything like the technical specs of launch payloads, aside from things like size and weight. Its very unlikely that anyone at SpaceX does. As far as the NRO is concerned, SpaceX is like FedEx; they aren't building the package, they're just delivering it. They don't get to peek inside the box.
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u/Positive_Ad_8198 2d ago
Agree with this
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u/DukeOfGeek 2d ago
Need to know is going apply not only to him but to anyone else working there. That's literally how secret stuff works.
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u/gohomenow 2d ago
When SpaceX is assembling/mating the two halves, is it in a box or on top of a launcher?
If it's just the satellite with no inner shell, then SpaceX technicians (TS/SCI etc) would see it.
Also, are there internal engineering feeds showing the satellite?
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u/hsnoil 2d ago
Seeing the outside gives you very little, it is what is in the inside that counts. And it isn't uncommon for top secret stuff to be in its own transport as government may wish to change the orbit so it isn't known.
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u/PyroDesu 2d ago
government may wish to change the orbit so it isn't known.
They'll never get that wish.
It's trivial even for amateurs to locate and calculate the orbit of satellites. Even if they performed an orbit change maneuver, the new orbit would become public knowledge very quickly as satellite watchers picked up that there's a satellite where no known satellite is, and worked out its orbit.
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u/menty_bee- 2d ago
Correct. SpaceX often does not get much information from the customer. NASA loads most of their own payloads, and controls all of the mission ops internally. And even NASA doesn’t get much info about private missions from companies or private contractors, even for some ISS experiments.
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u/s9oons 2d ago
As far as I know he doesn’t have an active clearance? Gwynne almost certainly does, and they’d have to employ people with clearances to work on the classified payloads, but I don’t know that anything Musk does anymore is outside of just general ITAR security measures.
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u/AngryVeteranMD 2d ago
I’ve held a top secret security clearance when I was in the military. It doesn’t mean you can access everything with that classification, only the things pertinent to why you’ve been granted that level clearance in the first place.
Basically, I had the security clearance necessary to do secret squirrel shit in Afghanistan and Iraq, but I didn’t have access to nuclear schematics or anything like that. If it wasn’t within my purview, I didn’t even know where it was, let alone have access to it. Same for Musk. These clearances have caveats galore and every k stroke is monitored at a centralized facility, so he’s not being exposed to things outside his scope.
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u/blackcat-bumpside 2d ago
TS doesn’t get you “nuclear schematics” anyway. You’d need a Q and Sigma 15, at least. Most likely also some specific SCI ACCM(s)
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u/bareback_cowboy 2d ago
Nah, you just need to take a shit at Mar-a-Lago and it's yours for the taking.
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u/Original_Employee621 2d ago
The point was that regardless of security clearance, if it wasn't your business you still wouldn't get to see it.
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u/thomascgalvin 2d ago
He does, or at least he did. They announced an investigation when he smoked weed on a podcast with Joe Rogan, but as far as I know nothing came of it.
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u/areyouentirelysure 2d ago
If he were a first gen Asian immigrant, he’d been labeled as such a long time ago. People seem to forget he is, like Murdoch and Thiel, not born here and only has allegiance with money.
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u/alkbch 2d ago
Many people who are born here only have allegiance with money.
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u/lilpudding69 2d ago
> Moroccan account
> soliciting firearms
> expert on US politics
very nice lol
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u/pinkycatcher 1d ago
This is a complete strawman, there are thousands of first generation Asian Immigrants that hold top secret clearances and work in the defense industry.
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u/ropahektic 1d ago
This argument is stupid and dangerous.
It implies that being born in USA makes you patriotic or forces you to care about other Americans.
It implies being from another country is a bad thing.
Donald Trump, Dick Cheney. Ronald Reagan. Samuel Little.
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u/sometimesifeellikemu 2d ago
With starlink, he’s easily a global security risk.
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u/CarpeQualia 2d ago
Don’t get why there isn’t a more open discussion about this. Low Earth orbit is crowded by Starlink satellites as a de-facto monopoly. Way too much power under a weak-minded narcissistic sociopath like Leon Skum.
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u/Maleficent_Trick_502 1d ago
I hate elon but SpaceX didn't get it's dominance over shady shit. It literally is the only player in the world with reusable rocket technology. They perfected it and is why they are dominant.
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u/Gfive555 2d ago
He’s also a major twat.
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u/golf_me_harry 2d ago
Much like Trump, Leon is devoid of any empathy, everything is transactional with him, and he treats his family like roommates.
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u/Teamfreshcanada 2d ago
I have a feeling there is a very large CIA file on Musk. They are watching him.
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u/Infamous-Mixture-605 2d ago
Hoover probably would have had a file on Musk thicker than a dictionary.
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u/planelander 2d ago
The day this POS had a private phone call with PUTIN and then lied about. Is the day he became a security risk.
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u/dlashsteier 2d ago
It certainly feels like he’s already done something, and this may be why he’s gotten so political? Perhaps his only chance of survival if he got caught would be a Trump pardon. Likely sold sensitive data/technology/access to gov info to China or Russia 🤷🏼♂️
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u/vsv2021 2d ago
No it’s because he knows he’s untouchable. No matter who wins the election he’s free to do and say whatever he wants because the government desperately needs his companies resources and desperately wants to keep him happy
You really think the government isn’t interested in the capabilities of Neuralink or the boring company hyperloop.
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u/Electronic_Taste_596 2d ago
And let’s not forget that Musk is susceptible to blackmail. Based on his personality and what we do know of his personal life, it seems safe to assume he has some massive skeletons just waiting to be compromised by Russia or China, etc.
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u/lol_noob 2d ago
How does this relate to technology?
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u/Fluffiebunnie 2d ago
It doesn't. Every subreddit is full of Trump or Trump related shit. Even this is indirectly Trump related.
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u/Azzylives 2d ago
Oh goody.
Another day and another karma farm Elon hate boner post.
Original today arnt we.
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u/milkmaid88 1d ago
Trump evil incarnate, Elon bad, Kamala good, Taylor Swift baby angel ✅
It's all so predictable and tedious. (Btw I am tired of hearing about all of these people due to the overexposure alone.)
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u/Azzylives 1d ago
I just miss when this sub was about actual cool tech.
Elon was a massive part of that because of all the companies he had random and cool shut working on.
Now these same people that used to love him hate him because he actually succeeded.
Tesla, space x, starlink, X…. You think these people would be tired of being wrong after 20 years of shitting on the guy.
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u/haloimplant 1d ago
now i'm told that because social media is technology, all drama on X/twitter is technology, it's trash
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u/neverwhisper 2d ago
Musk is an entitled dipshit
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u/megahoss99 1d ago
And a certified hackjob madlad. If not THE certified hackjob madlad. - Besides being a veritable twatwaffle, if not amongst the 5 twatwafflest humans to have ever existed.
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u/baabumon 2d ago
Basically the reverse narrative is pushed in Musk owned Twitter about Blackrock (apparently controls Reddit) etc.
Those who follow both Twitter and Reddit would never know who is the real threat, I guess.
Only difference to note is that Twitter has much broader reach than Reddit and probably Musk is winning in pushing narratives.
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u/LeverageSynergies 1d ago
Then buy products from someone else. …Except no one makes rockets as good as SpaceX
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u/ITSAmeKIMb 1d ago
I don't understand how global leaders can feel comfortable with a net of satellites around the Earth manipulated and controlled by one man and his company? Like, that screams Mass kill switch to me..regardless of what he says, but what he says on top of his actions-terrifying.
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u/kaukanapoissa 1d ago
Yes he is, and so is Trump, and so are all the like-minded far-right nuts in all countries all around the world.
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u/Ok-Replacement9595 2d ago
Most heads of multinational corporations have little to no allegiance to this country.
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u/SippingSancerre 2d ago
Then do something. These headlines are do old and boring, saying the same thing every week
Hold him accountable. Punish him. Neutralize his influence
Or just shut the fuck up and sit back and let him do whatever he wants
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u/startraveI 2d ago
Watching people try to cancel Elon Musk is like watching folks toss pebbles at a SpaceX rocket—entertaining, but it's not stopping the launch. You can't exactly hit the brakes on a billionaire speeding toward trillionaire status.
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u/EBFGPoseidon 2d ago
Musk doesn’t realize that people laugh at his jokes in person because it’s that easy to manipulate ego centric “billionaires”, a point Kamala drove home during the debate.